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Reputable shop in bay area?

Early this morning after I got off the freeway, my truck was making some nasty noises. Pulled over, called my step dad and he said he was pretty sure it was rod knock. Got a tow truck and now its sitting in my driveway. Is there any good shop in the bay area that will fix this or is it a lost cause? I didn't drive for very long, MAYBE a block but thats it. Thanks for any help!!!

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Don't know of any that I would recommend off the top of my head, Brian. Did you pull the oil pan and have a look yet? That should be your first step. Get under there and give it a good hard look see.

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Early this morning after I got off the freeway, my truck was making some nasty noises. Pulled over, called my step dad and he said he was pretty sure it was rod knock. Got a tow truck and now its sitting in my driveway. Is there any good shop in the bay area that will fix this or is it a lost cause? I didn't drive for very long, MAYBE a block but thats it. Thanks for any help!!!
dang, that sucks
my dealership has two top wrenches that I trust but that would be a ways from you. I wouldn't normally recommend a dealership but these guys are pretty darn good.

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A guy that's been in the auto repair industry for decades said that chances are I spun a bearing and all the metal flakes are running around my engine scratching stuff up. A short term fix would be to just replace the bearings and a long term fix is a rebuilt short block. He also said that he's only replaced a few bearings on cars and never seen them again but that doesn't mean nothing happened to them.

I'm afraid if I pull the oil pan off and start looking for myself I won't have a clue as to what's wrong. Not to mention that it will cost $150 to just have the mechanic drop the oil pan and diagnose the problem. At this point I would rather have a rebuilt short block to drop in only because I don't want to deal with this for a very long time

How much for your spare motor, Dick????

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Brian, I don't know of any reputable mechanics in this area that i'd recommend to do that kind of work. Bob has torn into his engine a little, but that was mostly on the upper end, not the lower.

You should just take the oil pan off and remove the main caps one by one and inspect them. I've got the FSM from my 97 that you are more than welcome to use if you want.

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Thanks for your help Steve. Is there any way that a bad knock sensor would cause the knocking? Do our motors even have knock sensors?

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brian i have a car trailer here if you need to borrow it.
i just took my car to BP (beetle power) motors in Pleasanton. the guy races baja, started specializing in VW's, and now works on everything. been around a while and i'd go back (just picked my VW up from there== he's worked on it twice).

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brian i have a car trailer here if you need to borrow it.
i just took my car to BP (beetle power) motors in Pleasanton. the guy races baja, started specializing in VW's, and now works on everything. been around a while and i'd go back (just picked my VW up from there== he's worked on it twice).
Damn! That dude is still around????

I remember breaking my VW bug in Pleasanton, and it quit on me RIGHT across the street from their shop.....I walked over there and asked if someone could help...he came over, looked for about a minute, and said, 'you need new points'....come here. Sold me some points for like 5 bucks, and walked me thru installling them....VERY NICE people there.

I didn't know they branched out to NON-VW though....

Sorry to hear about your truck, Bri. I think you should drop the pan yourself and take a peek though....

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Yes our engines have knock sensors, at least the 3.4L does. I doubt a bad knock sensor would cause that problem. It really only comes into play with a lot of loading on the engine i.e. you're gettin on it and then only at lower RPMs. Because of engine noise I think the ECU blanks it out at higher RPM and high load. A spun bearing could be a possability.
You ain't gettin my engine unless you pay a whole lot of money, more than you want to anyway. My advise is to shop the salvage yards for a good replacement engine. Toyota wants a whole lotta money for their stuff and they don't have a good engine program in place. At least not one that I've heard about. My dealership parts guy said that dealers have been on Toyota to put one into place for a long time now but still no cigar. For what they want for just a short block you can pick up a Summit catalog and get a full blown ready to rock small block crate engine or two.

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Maybe we should all show up at Brains this weekend for a wrenchathon to maybe figure out what's wrong with it.

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Early this morning after I got off the freeway, my truck was making some nasty noises. Pulled over, called my step dad and he said he was pretty sure it was rod knock. Got a tow truck and now its sitting in my driveway. Is there any good shop in the bay area that will fix this or is it a lost cause? I didn't drive for very long, MAYBE a block but thats it. Thanks for any help!!!
call the two local Japan engine places (South City and Oakland) and see what they have at the moment. A while back the 3.4s were going for $1500-2500 depending on ? I have no idea. all have under 35k miles and have a guarantee.

or, how about dropping a new 4.0 in there?

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brian i have a car trailer here if you need to borrow it.
i just took my car to BP (beetle power) motors in Pleasanton. the guy races baja, started specializing in VW's, and now works on everything. been around a while and i'd go back (just picked my VW up from there== he's worked on it twice).
Thanks Chuck, I'll keep your trailer and BP in mind

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Damn! That dude is still around????

I remember breaking my VW bug in Pleasanton, and it quit on me RIGHT across the street from their shop.....I walked over there and asked if someone could help...he came over, looked for about a minute, and said, 'you need new points'....come here. Sold me some points for like 5 bucks, and walked me thru installling them....VERY NICE people there.

I didn't know they branched out to NON-VW though....

Sorry to hear about your truck, Bri. I think you should drop the pan yourself and take a peek though....
Talk about breaking down at the right place! I ended up just having it towed around the corner to this guys shop. We'll see what he finds! Hopefully he'll be able to give me a quote on finding and installing a rebuilt. If it ends up being too much, I'll definitely have to find a motor myself and have a little wrechathon at my place

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Yes our engines have knock sensors, at least the 3.4L does. I doubt a bad knock sensor would cause that problem. It really only comes into play with a lot of loading on the engine i.e. you're gettin on it and then only at lower RPMs. Because of engine noise I think the ECU blanks it out at higher RPM and high load. A spun bearing could be a possability.
You ain't gettin my engine unless you pay a whole lot of money, more than you want to anyway. My advise is to shop the salvage yards for a good replacement engine. Toyota wants a whole lotta money for their stuff and they don't have a good engine program in place. At least not one that I've heard about. My dealership parts guy said that dealers have been on Toyota to put one into place for a long time now but still no cigar. For what they want for just a short block you can pick up a Summit catalog and get a full blown ready to rock small block crate engine or two.
I'm wondering if I'd be able to pull off an engine swap. As you may know, my truck is a federal truck. Doesn't have all the California smog stuff on it. I am really curious if I'd be able to swap in a 350 without troubles LOL

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call the two local Japan engine places (South City and Oakland) and see what they have at the moment. A while back the 3.4s were going for $1500-2500 depending on ? I have no idea. all have under 35k miles and have a guarantee.

or, how about dropping a new 4.0 in there?
Thanks for the info, Chris! I'll definitely check those places out

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Good news! Japan Engines in Oakland has V6 Tacoma motors for $1650 with an unlimited amount of miles in a certain amount of years or months. That price is also including heads too (which I may or may not need)

One thing I have heard about those motors from Japan is that the Japanese run the shit out of their cars and get rid of them after a certain amount of miles (32k-35k). Can anyone confirm this?

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In Japan they have some strange law that makes it cheaper to have a new car than to keep an old one and keep registering it every year. I think the cost for registration keeps going up every year you keep it.

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In Japan they have some strange law that makes it cheaper to have a new car than to keep an old one and keep registering it every year. I think the cost for registration keeps going up every year you keep it.
I'm part Japanese. My grandma is full, maybe I should ask her

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Good news! Japan Engines in Oakland has V6 Tacoma motors for $1650 with an unlimited amount of miles in a certain amount of years or months. That price is also including heads too (which I may or may not need)

One thing I have heard about those motors from Japan is that the Japanese run the shit out of their cars and get rid of them after a certain amount of miles (32k-35k). Can anyone confirm this?

Thats a decent price!

I have my camper shell on currently, but if I could get a third person to come help pull it off with mike and myself....I would be glad to pick the motor up for you since I work in Oakland every day......(that is, IF you go that route)....

Unless its palletized, it might fit with the shell on, but its probably better to remove it anyways.........

Just an option for ya....im glad to help out if I can.

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I think you could probably find out what the story is on the web. SEARCH!!! LOL

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Thats a decent price!

I have my camper shell on currently, but if I could get a third person to come help pull it off with mike and myself....I would be glad to pick the motor up for you since I work in Oakland every day......(that is, IF you go that route)....

Unless its palletized, it might fit with the shell on, but its probably better to remove it anyways.........

Just an option for ya....im glad to help out if I can.
Thanks for your help Andy! I'm going to have to call the mechanic tomorrow and see what the deal is with the truck. Maybe he will be able to just replace the bearings and have it be ok? Who knows

$1650 for a long block motor is a damn good deal. Toyota dealership wants $2900 for a brand new short block. Kragen (wasn't my first choice, obviously!) wanted $4000 for a brand new (or remanufactured?) long block.

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I think you could probably find out what the story is on the web. SEARCH!!! LOL
How would you search that? "Whats the dilly-yo with motors from Japan?"

I'll see what I can find

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Taken directly from the www.japanengine.com website

"Q. Why do they pull these engines out of cars there?

A. Cars in Japan get routinely inspected (every 3-5 years) as required by the governement. They put a avery hefty fine for those who don't pass the government inspection. Plus, they still need to get the necessary repair done in order to make their cars pass. By the way, just the inspection fee alone averages around $1500.00 not to mention the fine and repair cost. You can easily accumulate a bill worth $5,000 or more when these inspections are due. A lot of these car owners give up their cars to the local wrecking yard to avoid the repair bill. Instead, they use their "repair and inspection" money to make a down payment for a new car."

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Try Toyota pro in concord. I've only had them do stuff like smog and a occasional oil change but they were honest. If you buy a engine thru japanengines.com in San leandro, let me know. I live 10 miles away from that place. I can pick it up for you and drop it in Dublin. Besides, I've been wanting to check out a sas conversion upclose.

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Try Toyota pro in concord. I've only had them do stuff like smog and a occasional oil change but they were honest. If you buy a engine thru japanengines.com in San leandro, let me know. I live 10 miles away from that place. I can pick it up for you and drop it in Dublin. Besides, I've been wanting to check out a sas conversion upclose.

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Thanks for the offer Jeff! I'll keep you in mind Once my truck is back in my hands, you are more than welcome to come out and check it if you want.

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Thanks for the offer Jeff! I'll keep you in mind Once my truck is back in my hands, you are more than welcome to come out and check it if you want.
Sorry about your motor bro. How many miles do you have on it.

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Sorry about your motor bro. How many miles do you have on it.
Almost 113k

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Almost 113k

thats not a lot miles for our engines. Its still new

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thats not a lot miles for our engines. Its still new
No shit! I must've done something really wrong. I did leave it sitting for like 4 days, maybe that had something to do with it?

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