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Originally Posted by Anthony V. Scardina, ENFOHV Program Manager

NEWS RELEASE
USDA Forest Service
Eldorado National Forest
100 Forni Road, Placerville, CA 95667
__________________________________________________ _______________Date: August 18, 2005
Contact: Frank Mosbacher
Release: Embargo until August 23
Phone: 530-621-5268 (cell) 530-409-1080

New Eldorado National Forest Wheeled Motorized Vehicle Travel Regulations

Placerville, CA.... Beginning Thursday, August 25, 2005, visitors to the Eldorado National Forest can expect a change in where they can use their wheeled motorized vehicles. Forest Supervisor John Berry is implementing a Federal District Court Order that requires visitors to travel only on the 2,200 miles of Eldorado National Forest system roads and trails. These routes are displayed on a map available at forest offices free-of-charge.

"It is important that people planning to visit the Eldorado National Forest know about this change," said Berry. "Travel will only be allowed on the officially identified system of roads and trails. Driving wheeled motorized vehicles off these roads and trails will not be allowed without a permit."

Berry signed a separate forest order that implements the courtís direction. The forest order will be in effect until an environmental impact statement is completed to designate a system of motorized roads and trails. The designated system will be created out of an inventory of existing system roads and trails and non-system routes. The EIS is scheduled to begin this fall and to be completed in December 2006.

Additional information about wheeled motorized vehicle travel in the Eldorado National Forest is available on the Eldorado National Forest website: www.fs.fed.us/r5/eldorado.

Travel on approximately 700 miles of non-system routes will be prohibited while the EIS is in progress. Many of these routes were created over the years by visitors and are not part of the Forest system of roads and trails. The non-system routes may be considered in the EIS as possible additions to the designated system of wheeled motorized roads and trails.

Open roads and trails are shown on the free wheeled motorized vehicle map. While open routes will also be signed on the ground, the Forest Service says it will enforce the Forest order based on the open roads and trails displayed on the map.

"Most people will find that the routes they normally travel on are still open," said Berry. "People who camp outside of campgrounds will be affected by the coming change in travel routes. We will continue to allow camping outside campgrounds, however, in some cases people may have to carry their camping gear from their parked vehicle to their campsite."

Berry said it will be especially important for hunters to prepare for this change in travel regulations.

"It is not unusual for hunters to travel off main roads to their favorite hunterís camp," said Berry. "Under the court order, hunters will need to check with the wheeled motorized route map before they venture out."

Woodcutters will be allowed to gather wood according to the terms of their fuelwood gathering permit, which allows them to drive off a road to gather fuelwood.

Maps and other information are be available at all Eldorado National Forest offices and entrance stations.

Anthony V. Scardina
Eldorado National Forest
OHV Program Manager
Presidential Management Fellow

USDA Forest Service
Eldorado National Forest, Supervisor's Office
100 Forni Road
Placerville, CA 95667


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Originally Posted by Anthony V. Scardina, ENFOHV Program Manager

Eldorado National Forest bi-weekly telephone briefings for the public and others to learn about the Eldorado NF Route Designation Project

Hello Everyone. This message is to let you know that our next bi-weekly telephone briefing on the Route Designation Project will be on Tuesday, August 30, at 12:00 pm. To access the briefing follow the instructions below:

Dial: 1-866-720-3489, then passcode: 9683102, then press #.

The briefings will provide you with current updates on the designation project, as well as provide an opportunity to ask the Project Team Leaders and others questions. We encourage you to use the telephone briefings and ask that you inform others about this opportunity.

The briefings will continue every other Tuesday at noon. Specific dates can be found on our website at:
http://www.fs.fed.us/r5/eldorado/projects/route. If you have any questions or comments please respond to [email protected].

We look forward to talking with you over lunch.

Project Team Leader
Tony Scardina

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Anyone who is interested in receiving updates about the Route Designation Project on the Eldorado National Forest may sign up for the mailing list by sending their name, mailing address, e-mail address, and areas of interest
to: [email protected]. You can also mail the information to:
Eldorado Route Coordinator; USDA Forest Service; 100 Forni Road; Placerville, California, 95667. It is important to include the mailing address so we can get a picture of where people are from; this will help us plan future public information and involvement activities.

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Originally Posted by Anthony V. Scardina, ENFOHV Program Manager

Public Participation Meeting for Eldorado National Forest Route Designation Project: September 14, 2005, 6:00 pm to 9:00 pm: Eldorado County Office of Education, Building 1.

The Eldorado National Forest Route Designation Interdisciplinary Team will hold a public meeting on Wednesday, September 14, 2005, at the Eldorado County Office of Education, Building 1. For directions go to:
http://www.edcoe.k12.ca.us/directions/directions.html, or contact us directly at [email protected].
The meeting will be from 6:00 pm to 9:00 pm.

This is the first public meeting that will directly discuss route designation on the Eldorado National Forest, and marks the beginning of a new phase in the designation process. Past public meetings have been primarily focused on the route inventory.

The meeting has two primary objectives:

1. Let the public express their values, criteria, and opinions about
route designation on the Eldorado National Forest.

2. Help the public gain a better understanding of how resource
specialist in the Forest Service begin to identify resource issues
across the Forest by visually displaying and discussing the interaction
between roads/trails and natural resources.

This is a great opportunity to express your views, to see how the Forest Service works, and to get information and learn how to be an effective participant throughout the route designation process. It is important that you attend this meeting because it is the beginning of a series of meetings that are tied together. In other words, it will be harder to participate in later meetings if you do not attend this meeting. If you cannot attend, please contact us after September 14 at [email protected], and we will help bring you up to speed and prepare you for future meetings.

The meeting will be fun, new, and exciting. Please join us on September 14. We look forward to seeing you there!


Anthony V. Scardina
Eldorado National Forest
OHV Program Manager
Presidential Management Fellow

USDA Forest Service
Eldorado National Forest, Supervisor's Office 100 Forni Road Placerville, CA 95667

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Like I have allways said, no matter how much you pay someone or your carefull with the land your using, the can shut it down, or change were you can go no matter what anyone thinks.
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Like I have allways said, no matter how much you pay someone or your carefull with the land your using, the can shut it down, or change were you can go no matter what anyone thinks.
It's public land, meaning I am a partial owner. I am not going to stand by and watch my long-time favorite places become off limits. I am sick of it.

The forest service needs to start managing the land properly, and start doing it now. Four-wheel and other OHV use is increasing every year, but there are fewer and fewer places to go. Soon there will be a melt-down and something drastic will have to happen.

Oh well. In a few hours I'll be crawling with Marlin through one of the most beautiful trails in the Sierra. At 10,000' on the Dusy Ershim trail in the middle of the Sierra National Forest it should be pretty easy to forget about all this political and environmental crap that pisses me off so much.

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All I have to say is keep fighting. There's nothing to fight here cause everything has been shut down since the first 4x4 was built. This meaning theres not one place to ride were I live.
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Total fucking bull shit man. I'm going to go camp on that fuckers lawn.
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Total fucking bull shit man. I'm going to go camp on that fuckers lawn.
Well, that may or may not accomplish anything. The USDA Forest Service is simply responding to a lawsuit. The lawsuit aside, this stuff is coming to all National Forests in the near future.

We need to show up in force at the first public meeting. It's at 6PM on a Wednesday night. Take off work early, deal with shitty traffic, listen to lots of greenies talk about how we are the devil and how we destroy the environment, then drive home.

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Well, that may or may not accomplish anything. The USDA Forest Service is simply responding to a lawsuit. The lawsuit aside, this stuff is coming to all National Forests in the near future.

We need to show up in force at the first public meeting. It's at 6PM on a Wednesday night. Take off work early, deal with shitty traffic, listen to lots of greenies talk about how we are the devil and how we destroy the environment, then drive home.

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If I can get that night off do you want to drive up together?

Sept 14th, right?

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If I can get that night off do you want to drive up together?

Sept 14th, right?
Sounds like a plan! Wear a T-shirt that will piss people off. TTORA, FOTR, Marlin Crawler, etc.

Lots of important people will be talking about lots of important stuff. I plan to simply shut up and listen.

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