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Question Lock Right locker?

I'm posting this in the newbie tech section because I don't know a lot about which lockers are right for what i'm looking for. I know detroits are good but i'm not looking to spend that much money. A spool locker isn't good for me cause my truck is my DD. I have a 97 single cab 2.7L...I have been doing research and the lockright locker seems to be about what i'm looking for.

My question is, the richmond website says the install does not require resetting the gears. Is that true because I have no idea how to set backlash and whatnot and can't afford anyone to install it for me.

And which lock right will I be getting? I know websites advertise differently for diff size. anywhere from 8"-8.4". I want to make sure I'm getting the right one.

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My question is, the richmond website says the install does not require resetting the gears. Is that true because I have no idea how to set backlash and whatnot and can't afford anyone to install it for me.

And which lock right will I be getting? I know websites advertise differently for diff size. anywhere from 8"-8.4". I want to make sure I'm getting the right one.
1. true

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Thank you very much
I found one on ebay. Says it fits my tacoma and I found a few write ups on installation. Looks like I found my locker

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You will probably have to remove the ring gear from your carrier, depending on your gear ratio (I had to on my 4 runner). If so, mark it so it goes back on in the correct orientatio and re-torque to specs and you're good to go. The install took me about 12 hours, but that was due to celebratory beers before it was done.

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It is a easy install. A friend and I did it in 6 hours the first time, and like 4 the second time we did one. We had no clue to what we were doing the first time and that is why it took longer. Just make sure you torque it all back down.

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attention to detail should be a priority over speed of completion !

I've seen where someone failed to indent the pin openings sufficiently
and the pins backed out...

so make sure those are set well

oh and pull the axle's completely clear of the housing...
don't let them rest half way out, chance farking up the oil seals...
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attention to detail should be a priority over speed of completion !

i've seen where someone failed to indent the pin openings sufficiently
and the pins backed out...

So make sure those are set well

Oh and pull the axle's completely clear of the housing...
Don't let them rest half way out, chance farking up the oil seals...
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Go ARB and never go back. I had a lockright, installed it myself, far from the hardest thing I've ever done

6 months later I grenaded the thing while on a run 9 hrs from home. Now, I have an 05 which is alot heavier than yours, but I know of several who have had issues with lockrights
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X2 on the ARB.

I've been running a Lock Rite in the rear of my Land Cruiser for years. I haven't had any problems with it, but the Land Cruiser isn't my daily driver either. I ran the Lock Rite when the truck was my DD however in snow and icey roads I had to be really careful about getting on the gas or the truck would spin out.

My 08 Taco TRD sport is getting an ARB when funds allow since that truck is my DD. (the choice is ARB Bullbar, or ARB air locker, the truck is getting both, but which first?).

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X2 on the ARB.
Obviously U both missed this...

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I'm posting this in the newbie tech section because I don't know a lot about which lockers are right for what i'm looking for. I know detroits are good but i'm not looking to spend that much money. A spool locker isn't good for me cause my truck is my DD. I have a 97 single cab 2.7L...I have been doing research and the lockright locker seems to be about what i'm looking for.

My question is, the richmond website says the install does not require resetting the gears. Is that true because I have no idea how to set backlash and whatnot and can't afford anyone to install it for me.

And which lock right will I be getting? I know websites advertise differently for diff size. anywhere from 8"-8.4". I want to make sure I'm getting the right one.

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Obviously U both missed this...
Gonna be more expensive if he grenades the rear end in the future.

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I've rolled mine 7 years on the trails of socal,
as well as several annual romps at Moab.
My lockright has performed flawlessly and seems durable to me.
as I've yet to have this issue of which U fear

It really comes down to driving with some maturity and smarts
instead of beating on shit like money grows from trees
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I've rolled mine 7 years on the trails of socal,
as well as several annual romps at Moab.
My lockright has performed flawlessly and seems durable to me.
as I've yet to have this issue of which U fear

It really comes down to driving with some maturity and smarts
instead of beating on shit like money grows from trees
or daddy paid for it




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" if ya wheel like an idiot... it probably shows "
Your definition of "wheeling" may be different than others.

Not many lockrites make it long on the Arizona trails. Nothing to do with driving style here (other than it's not flat).

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Your definition of "wheeling" may be different than others.
You must be right
'cause it's flat here in cali and there ain't no rocks


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Not many lockrites make it long on the Arizona trails. Nothing to do with driving style here (other than it's not flat).
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i have lockrights front and rear for the past couple of years. the truck is my dd.

i have not had any problems with them.

being in the southeast we need to use the skinny a lot more than you folks out west because off all the mud and water. that being said i have beat the crap out of my truck and have only broken a few cvs(poorly remanufactured ones at that). I have however broken a set of spider gears. I would much rather replace cvs than spider gears all the time.

as for the rear, nothing has broken or have had problems with it. my front locker was used and was under another truck before i got it. I can tell you that truck was beat on pretty good for a few years before i got it.

i have known many people to use lockrights and actually wheel hard with no issues.

If i had to do it over again I would still go with the lockrights

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I've rolled mine 7 years on the trails of socal,
as well as several annual romps at Moab.
My lockright has performed flawlessly and seems durable to me.
as I've yet to have this issue of which U fear

It really comes down to driving with some maturity and smarts
instead of beating on shit like money grows from trees
or daddy paid for it




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" if ya wheel like an idiot... it probably shows "
Wow...I really thought you were above this level of maturity. Wheeling is different in all areas of the country/world and different products last longer in different places. I also said I had a 05 which is over 1000# heavier than yours esp since its a Double cab as well.

And [TacoDell] I am sorry if your daddy paid for your truck or you can't afford ARB's

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Wow this thread has gone on much further after the answer.

I know lots of people with lockrites and they have never had any problems. Here in Arizona you have to realize the way up the rocks is CRAWLING. I've seen people think they need to hit the rock at like 50mph to make it and thats when they break axles, u-joints, diffs, etc. I'm a crawler. I like takin it nice, slow, and easy. As long as I take my time on the install it should last me a long while.

ARB's are cool but holy crap they are not worth the money imo.

BTW I paid for my truck myself if that comment was directed towards me. Thanks.

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Not directed at you sir. I was merely pointing out my experience with Lockrights, as was the original question. I dont wheel in AZ, I wheel in the east which is way different.

I was merely also stating that I know several with 05+ Tacos that have toasted lockrights.

I take offense to intraweb idiots who like to try to push people around or think they know all there is about wheeling. Different opinions and points are what make a discussion. Not the "your opinion is different than mine so you're wrong" mentality.

If I can help someone with a new tacoma avoid the same issues with a lockright it will have been a help to them.

Nonetheless I hope your lockright serves you well.
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I was merely also stating that I know several with 05+ Tacos that have toasted lockrights.
so what... who hasn't
he's wasn't inquiring about an '05^
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I'm posting this in the newbie tech section because I don't know a lot about which lockers are right for what i'm looking for. I know detroits are good but i'm not looking to spend that much money. A spool locker isn't good for me cause my truck is my DD. I have a 97 single cab 2.7L...I have been doing research and the lockright locker seems to be about what i'm looking for.My question is, the richmond website says the install does not require resetting the gears. Is that true because I have no idea how to set backlash and whatnot and can't afford anyone to install it for me.

And which lock right will I be getting? I know websites advertise differently for diff size. anywhere from 8"-8.4". I want to make sure I'm getting the right one.
again... you obviously were so interested in slingin' yer dick's worth of ARB promotion...
that U failed to read/understand the op's inquiry.


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If I can help someone with a new tacoma avoid the same issues with a lockright it will have been a help to them.
IMO, better help could be found at their website or thru google


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Nonetheless I hope your lockright serves you well.
^ the only good thing U said

I don't give a shit if you have hurt feelings.
don't come to this folder and mislead new folks
into thinking that lockright failure is common place
and isn't worthy of consideration...

instead... answer objectively and on topic
in regards to the user's needs or wants

not everyone needs what U might think they need.

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One last thought on ARB/Lock-Right....or even a Detroit for that matter. Lots of people promote the ARB because of the "poor" on-road behavior of auto lockers. Fact. ARB will be better on the road because you can turn it off and it will act just like a normal open diff. So yes, techinically it is probably better, but lots of people don't want to spend that kind of money, or don't want to deal with the extra things that can go wrong like air lines etc.

The auto lockers behave MUCH differently on the road in a longer wheelbase vehicle than they do in a shorter wheelbase vehicle. A short wheelbase Cruiser is going to be pretty sketchy if you get on the throttle in wet/ice conditions especially when turning. In those same conditions, those behaviors a vastly dimished in a longer wheelbase like a Tacoma. Not saying you don't have to be careful, but its not that big of an issue.

Bottom line is a LR will work out great for your truck as a budget locker. It will have some on-road behaviors you'll need to get used to, but once you do, you'll be fine.


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IMO, better help could be found at their website or thru google
Not really bc there website says nothing about failure in new tacomas

Well obviously your only wanting to slign 'yer dicks worth of opinions on how to find this so called info...blah blah blah

Once again I apologize for your not being able to afford an ARB.

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Good points Box Rocket
a LockRight is not for everyone... and there are user quirks and tire size stipulations
but it gets the job done for most moderate wheelers rollin' 33's
and maybe a few "skinny pedal" drivers, pressing fate, rollin' 35's

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Once again I apologize for your not being able to afford an ARB.

-out
welp... ya got me on that one

but if I was to spend the dough on an ARB...
it wouldn't be replacing muh LockRight...
instead... it'd get wedged it in muh 7.5"

nothing lives forever

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but if I was to spend the dough on an ARB...
it wouldn't be replacing muh LockRight...
instead... it'd get wedged it in muh 7.5"
Now that would be well worth it for sure. FYI thats the combo I was running, lockright out back and ARB up front.

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I had a lockright related failure. 09 regular cab, stock gearing. Best I can tell the repeated shockload and reuse of a crush sleeve caused everything to go "BOOM!" on me one night at 70 mph. Keep in mind, I am relatively easy on my stuff. I since have gotten ARB's and 4.88's f/r, and IMO the money is worth it.

On manners and to the OP, with your regular cab you will hate life in the winter. Slight hint of ice or snow? Slow wayyyyyy down. Do you have mud tires? Slow down even more. With that short wheelbase, you will be fighting the truck all of the time in winter. While an ARB is more to start with, in the long run you will be more satisfied, and probably save a little more in regards to failure or maintenance on the lockright.

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^ shoulda swapped out the crush sleeves for solid spacers

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Wow this thread has gone on much further after the answer.
the thread topic and OP's primary questions
were asked and answered very early on...
as even the OP made comment regarding

and yet... you all continue to clutter this thread with more unrelated and unwarranted drivel and hysteria

just for the benefit of what...
reading yer own type ?

for the last time !!? (and muh final comment)
this thread...
...has got nothing to do with late model Tacoma's

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for the last time !!? (and muh final comment)
this thread...
...has got nothing to do with late model Tacoma's
Well I think that I provided some useful info. We both have a regular cab, and I figured he would do well with some advice on how it drove in inclement weather. Also, now he knows that it would probably be a good idea to throw in a solid pinion spacer upon install. That's what I did with my ARB.

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[QUOTE=gtrotter;2193567]On manners and to the OP, with your regular cab you will hate life in the winter. Slight hint of ice or snow? Slow wayyyyyy down. Do you have mud tires? Slow down even more. With that short wheelbase, you will be fighting the truck all of the time in winter. While an ARB is more to start with, in the long run you will be more satisfied, and probably save a little more in regards to failure or maintenance on the lockright.

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If you look the OP is from Tucson, AZ, where I'm also currently located. The ONLY time we see snow is if we go up MT. Lemmon, which whenever it snows on that mountain they close the road because no one in Tucson knows how to drive in the snow. I had a LR before and you will be fine in Tucson. You can do 3 feathers with no locker at all, I do it just about every weekend.

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you can look at the spartan lockers also. they say there stronger and right around the same price.

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Your definition of "wheeling" may be different than others.

Not many lockrites make it long on the Arizona trails. Nothing to do with driving style here (other than it's not flat).
I second the fact that lock rights don't last in AZ. I had a 92 ex-cab with 3.0 and a 5 spd. 35" tires running 529 gears, I grenaded 4 lock rights in two trips out. front and rear both times. The first set was installed at a 4 wheel drive shop the second set was installed by my mechanic at the shop I was working at. I finally found a complete rear axle from a 01 Taco with an e-locker. I stuffed the 529's in and never had another problem with the rear.
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I will echo what others have said....don't waste your money on a lockright.....I had ecgs build a rear third for me with 4.56's, lockright, solid pinion spacer.....all new parts......thing sucked from day one and within a couple months it clicked, poped, and snaped so bad it wasn't even safe to drive. Lucky for me they warrentied it and I payed the difference to get a detroit.....couldnt be happier.

Don't waste your money on an ARB.....especially for the rear.....there has never been one time when I wished I could unlock the rear....all the arb does is add complexity that you don't need. Even when I was dd'ing my truck it was never an issue....you can't hardly tell it is there.

I know you said you don't have the money for a detroit, but honestly saving for one is your best bet.....you will come out ahead in the long run.

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