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buy a used 22re and swap straight in 3 17.65%
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swap in a taco 2.7 4 23.53%
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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 05-07-2011, 10:22 PM Thread Starter
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the 22re in my toyota started knocking this evening on the way home. it has no power and cuts off randomly going down the road. what would you do?

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2.7 is my future plan as of right now

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If ya gonna do it do it right and go with a 3.4. If you need this shitbox back up and running soon just swap back in what you already have.

Im not arguing with you. Im just jumping in on something I dont know or care about!!

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350 and 350 turbo can find pretty cheap.
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i pulled the valve cover off this evening and the timing chain has A LOT of slop in it. so im guessing all the noise was coming from the timing chain. replacing that tomorrow.

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i pulled the valve cover off this evening and the timing chain has A LOT of slop in it. so im guessing all the noise was coming from the timing chain. replacing that tomorrow.
let me know how that goes, i'm still planning on doing mine this summer.

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Get the metal backed chain guides and you know about the "mystery" bolt going through the top of the head (at the front) and into the timing cover... right?

...oh, and I vote 3.4 or go back original.
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Get the metal backed chain guides and you know about the "mystery" bolt going through the top of the head (at the front) and into the timing cover... right?

...oh, and I vote 3.4 or go back original.
i know now lol. do i have to pull everything off the front of the motor to do this? can i get the metal backed chain guides from a regular parts store?

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yes you do have to disassembly the front of the motor

check 4crawler.com for tips and tricks also metal guides are not OE so you'll have to order those in from englbder
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also I voted 2.7 just cause it would be easier to do IMO
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350 and 350 turbo can find pretty cheap.
Close but I would pick a 5.3l Vortec over that due to power vs weight. The weight of the vortec would be less than 100lbs over the weight of the 22re and would double it's power plus you would get better mileage than the re.

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If your not set on a toy drivetrain I'd go with a tbi 4.3 mated to your toy transmission via an adapter. The 4.3 is an easy swap and motors are everywhere. I'd recommend the tbi since the CPI unit is prone to cracked injector lines dumping fuel into the cylinders

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My vote is the 3.4 IF you want to keep it a Toyota. If not, the easiest would be to fix the current motor or go all out for the LS series chevy v8 swap. My ideal set up would be a supercharged 3.4 as that is what I'd like to do if I had the time and money.

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i know now lol. do i have to pull everything off the front of the motor to do this? can i get the metal backed chain guides from a regular parts store?
Ooops.. sorry, I missed your post.

Not for sure if you can get them locally or not.

Can get'm here...
http://www.engnbldr.com/

...I've purchased two sets from here. EB has better pricing tho...
http://www.doaracingengines.com/

And yes, as already mentioned you'll have to do some significant surgery on the front of the engine. Just take your time doing it and be careful with all the sealing surfaces etc.
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I voted to keep it simple and swap in a used 22re or maybe rebuild yours.

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I just rebuilt my 22re. If I would have known how much that was going to cost.... There would be a 3rz under the hood of my runner.

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okay in reality how hard is it to swap in a 2.7? can i use my transmission that i already have?

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yeah but you wheel like Tim Cameron
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doesnt really answer but... http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=242885

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okay in reality how hard is it to swap in a 2.7? can i use my transmission that i already have?
Yes, thats why i'm wanting to swap it into mine eventually.

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here, this helped me understand the entire process a crap ton more. A lot of info and quite a few swaps with pictures and everything.

http://board.marlincrawler.com/index.php?topic=19275.0

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thanks that helps alot

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yeah but you wheel like Tim Cameron
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not a problem, seems to me that the hardest things would be the wiring and possibly the engine mounts/exhaust(could be made easy)

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yeah the wiring is going to be a pain.. but the truck is down right now anyway, and instead of a rebuild id rather spend the same money and have more HP

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3rz swap just got easier

http://www.chilkatdesigns.com/Heavy-...or-Mounts.html

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wow... yeah i'll just buy those whenever i do this down the road.

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dang it.....

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