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Local dealer recommends 10w30 but manual says 5w30? Anyone else in or near Virginia using 10w30?
Are you running synthetic or dino? I have been switching back and forth between 10w30 and 5w30 and have been thinking about just staying with 10w all year round.toytaco702 said:I have done an oil analysis on both 5w30 and 10w30 at 5000 miles. The 10w30 holds up better with viscosity, meaning it doesn't thicken as much. the 5w30 was almost a 40wt oil after 5k.
The TBN was higher with the 10w30. TBN being the Total Base Number. Higher is better and refers to the ability of the oil to neutralize the acids in the oil. Once the TBN is really low, you will get increased wear.
Yeah, I thought about that too, but I live in Atlanta and run Mobil 1 full synthetic, so to my way of thinking the 10w synthetic most likely flows better than a 5w dino anyways...plus it doesn't get extremely cold down here. So I guess I'd rather have the stability of a 10w, but just wanted to get some more input.BLT2RCKTRD said:5w30 is much easier on a cold startup.
Honestly I think you'll be better off with 10w M1 in the long run. I haven't done any UOA though, so I don't have anything to back that statement up.Superglide said:I was worried about start up too but I also use Mobil1 syn so I don't think it would cange much. I'm just asking about the difference in the long run.
What type of oil did you run this test on synthetic or not.toytaco702 said:I have done an oil analysis on both 5w30 and 10w30 at 5000 miles. The 10w30 holds up better with viscosity, meaning it doesn't thicken as much. the 5w30 was almost a 40wt oil after 5k.
The TBN was higher with the 10w30. TBN being the Total Base Number. Higher is better and refers to the ability of the oil to neutralize the acids in the oil. Once the TBN is really low, you will get increased wear.
Thats what I am saying.Alaskan Assassin said:Use 5W-30!!!. After all, that's what the engineers who designed your engine say to use. Why try and second guess them?
5W-30 works perfectly in climates that range from -40F to over 120F.
If you use 5w-30 and do regular scheduled changes, your engine will probably outlast the rest of your truck.
Both were Mobil 1 synthetic.BLT2RCKTRD said:What type of oil did you run this test on synthetic or not.
Sounds like you are using the wrong oil.toytaco702 said:Both were Mobil 1 synthetic.
For cold start-ups, 5w30 doesn't begin to flow better until its about 10 below zero or colder.
If you have hot summers, 10w30 will be better for the summer heat. It won't thicken as much as the oil gets some use.
In my analysis, the 5w30 had thickened to almost a 40w oil, but the 10w30 stayed at a 30w.
He's telling you that cuz that's what he has in the drums behind his shop.Superglide said:Local dealer recommends 10w30 but manual says 5w30? Anyone else in or near Virginia using 10w30?
I would have to disagree with your claim that 0w30 is best and don't think you should be telling people that. 0w is much more susceptible to shearing and will not provide the protection you need to run extended drain intervals.PismoBoy24 said:He's telling you that cuz that's what he has in the drums behind his shop.
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Just use this for ALL climates from Alaska to Florida. You do not need to know anything further about oil.
10W-30 = Good
5W-30 = Better
0-30W = Best
-Chris
Bah, I agree w/ Gadget. And I'd like to add that I change my oil once a year, and still even at that, the rest of the truck will wear out long before my engine ever wears out.camaddy said:I would have to disagree with your claim that 0w30 is best and don't think you should be telling people that. 0w is much more susceptible to shearing and will not provide the protection you need to run extended drain intervals.