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I'm sure you've all heard this before...I'm new to this, want cheap mods, etc. I have an 04 TRD and want to enhance the truck. I was thinking of replacing the stock 16" trd rims with 15", black, steel rims (they just look mean!). I was also thinking of getting larger tires (33x12.5) and a 3" body lift to clear them.
First, do you suggest any specific rims (size or brand), and am i dumb for changing my stock 16's out?
Second, will a 3" body lift clear the larger tires? I have a really limited budget, and can't afford a good suspension lift yet.
Third, are these good mods for my truck?
I live in Las Vegas, do a lot of mild to medium crawling, and a ton of trails, but I am moving to Portland OR in a few months. This is my daily commuter and weekend toy, so I am open to all suggestions. Thanks!
 

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With JUST 3" body lift you'll probably have some rubbing issues w/ 33x12.50s.

You're not dumb for changing out your stock 16s. I (and tons of other owners) are running 15x8 steel wheels. Im running 15x8 US wheels w/ a 3.75" backspace and 33x12.50 BFG Mud Terrains with about 5" of lift (no rubbing).
 

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If you're going to wheel your truck, you'll be happier spending the money on a mild suspension lift and keeping the stock tires and rims for a few extra months. 33's are gonna rub off road with only 3 inches. You may think it looks a little disproportionate, but 2-3" of suspension lift with 31" tires will get you a lot farther down the trail than a 3" body lift and 33's that may tear up your fenders on the first obstacle you decide to flex on. And if this is your DD 33's don't do much for the pocketbook with $2/gal gas.
 

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Breathegood said:
You may think it looks a little disproportionate, but 2-3" of suspension lift with 31" tires will get you a lot farther down the trail than a 3" body lift and 33's that may tear up your fenders on the first obstacle you decide to flex on.
I beg to differ...
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-4/155437/wallobstacle4.JPG
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-4/155437/smallledges.JPG

Though the tire rubbage was kind of serious without some fender work...
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-4/155437/bigledge6.JPG
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-4/155437/wallobstaclefinal.JPG

My 33x12.50s are on 15x10s with a lot of backspacing, so the width is substantial and rubbing is common during flex.

Though 15x8s would be better for the 33x12.50s with a 3" lift, I cannot recommend doing that to an '04. Smaller tires, like 32x11.50s, or a 2" body lift, would be much better for a new DD. A great combination that I have seen in action is 3" of lift with 33x10.50 BFG A/Ts on factory 15" alloys. Very nice look and seemingly less fender contact.
 

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I beg to differ...
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-4/155437/wallobstacle4.JPG
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-4/155437/smallledges.JPG

Though the tire rubbage was kind of serious without some fender work...
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-4/155437/bigledge6.JPG
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-4/155437/wallobstaclefinal.JPG

My 33x12.50s are on 15x10s with a lot of backspacing, so the width is substantial and rubbing is common during flex.

Though 15x8s would be better for the 33x12.50s with a 3" lift, I cannot recommend doing that to an '04. Smaller tires, like 32x11.50s, or a 2" body lift, would be much better for a new DD. A great combination that I have seen in action is 3" of lift with 33x10.50 BFG A/Ts on factory 15" alloys. Very nice look and seemingly less fender contact.
So...are you agreeing with me or dissagreeing? You say the 33x12.50's rubbed pretty seriously without fender work and you wouldn't do that to an '04. I said they will rub, you said they rub. Or was it my statement about getting farther with 2-3" of suspension and 31's rather than 3" body and 33's? The way I see it, you get more ground clearence and better articulation versus a bigger footprint and the satisfaction of filling out the wheel wells. Personally, I'd rather spend money on suspension upgrades rather than cutting up or replacing a torn up fender. Whatever works best for you.
 

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I'm running 15x8 black steel locks w/some 33x12.5 mt/r's and love the combo. As far as a 3" b.l. to clear them.... :rolleyes: maybe a 3" susp. lift and a 2" b.l. You will be much happyier getting a coilover front kit and a new leaf pack or aal in the rear and then addinga b.l. and new tires. P.s. if you are on a budget dont forget money to regear. Those 33's will kill you otherwise. I geared to 4.88 and it was the best money spent so far.
 

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I am disagreeing with the statement about getting farther down the trail, as the ground clearance helps, but I also have 4.88 gears to push the tires.

I am agreeing with you on the fact that they rub without cutting.

The low stance and wide outside width of my truck lends to comfort on off-camber sections and plenty of rubber for strattling trenches and rock crevices.

It's not the absolute best way to go, nothing is, but I like the look and the feel. Lower gears are a must, however, for trailworthy-ness.

I think a 3" lift, fiberglass, 33s, 15x8s, and gears are the best all around bet for a streetable yet trailready DD taco.
 

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While I understand the wider stance part of your reasoning, you wouldn't rather have the full articulation of your suspension? If your tire is contacting fender, you are limiting suspension travel, and in some some cases this could offset any stability gains from the wider tire. 33's with a body lift only offer an inch more clearence over stock, and 4.88s won't keep you from getting high centered. I agree with keeping minimum lift to clear a tire, but if it tears up my fender, I'm gonna be upset. I totally agree about the best all around though. If I had the $$$ to spend, my toy would be all decked out with long travel and glass.
 

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Once I do some cutting of the bed, do my high-clearance rear bumper and 1/4 panels, and cut on the front, I will be able to use most of my flex.

The distance under my skid plate is the same as the same truck with a 3" body lift. I can't see a BL giving me any benefit on or offroad, other than clearing bigger tires, though one can get very close to that clearance with some cutting. Ground clearance is the same regardless of a bodylift, as I'm sure you understand.

There are some local members here in Utah that are on 33s and 15x8s and they both have body lifts in addition to suspension lifts. They are far more tippy around corners and on sidehills, yet don't have any more ground clearance (at the frame) than I do.

I like being wide and low, and that's where the truck will stay when it gets a solid front in a year.
 
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