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I own a 04' 4x4 double cab trd tacoma, v6 3.4lL. I was playing in the snow from yesterdays awesome snow storm. (I'm in the north east) I noticed that I really hate ABS brakes. I spend most of the time in 4 low and the locker locked so the abs would not work. I have the details and I am going to do the grey wire mod to get my locker to engage in 4 high or 2 high. This way I can have it locked and no ABS. My question:

How can I get it so I can turn on or off the ABS when I want to. Many times yesterday I thought I wasn't going to stop becasue of the abs. I was thinking I can pull a relay or something but I figured I would ask here as someone may have already done this and make my life easy.

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Just remove the fuse. It doesn't pull out like a normal one though, you have pop the block out of the box it's in and remove a screw that holds the fuse in. If you break the fuse a new one is like $10 at the dealer.
 

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bkandrus said:
Many times yesterday I thought I wasn't going to stop becasue of the abs.
Are you saying you can stop better without ABS? Wow... I don't know how many times that thing has saved my ass when the road was slick.
Man I wish I had some of your snow. I drool when I watch the news and they report on your blizzard.
In Utah, where we are supposed to have 30 F and snow, we have 40 F and fog! Sucks!
 

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ABS - Quicker stop???

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Are you saying you can stop better without ABS? Wow... I don't know how many times that thing has saved my ass when the road was slick.
Man I wish I had some of your snow. I drool when I watch the news and they report on your blizzard.
In Utah, where we are supposed to have 30 F and snow, we have 40 F and fog! Sucks!

Yeah I am not saying I can stop better with out ABS on dry pavement or wet pavement. But I can stop better when you have snow or ice with out abs. sometime when approaching a stop on snow the abs kicks in pulling back the breaking ability when only 1 tire has broken traction. This is just like taking your foot off the brake. This makes me feel like I am going to go right through the intersection. I would much rather be able to control my slide verses not having a choice.
 

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Yeah, I've noticed my ABS sucks off-roading in the snow too. I doesn't feel like you're going to stop and it just shudders. I'm curious what causes this...???
 

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now i know how to get that pesky fuse out....I had disco'd the wiring harness to kill that stupid ABS

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flatlandtacoma said:
You're joking, right? :(
I was tired when I typed that last night and I was responding to another thread at the same time :eek: ... I meant to say I too was looking for an easy way to disable the ABS other than engaging the locker.
 

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if you really wanted to, you could figure out what turns the ABS off when you lock the locker, and wire a switch in...
 

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atwinda said:
if you really wanted to, you could figure out what turns the ABS off when you lock the locker, and wire a switch in...
I'm going to check the wiring diagrams tonight if I have time and maybe do something like that
 

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bkandrus said:
Yeah I am not saying I can stop better with out ABS on dry pavement or wet pavement. But I can stop better when you have snow or ice with out abs. sometime when approaching a stop on snow the abs kicks in pulling back the breaking ability when only 1 tire has broken traction. This is just like taking your foot off the brake. This makes me feel like I am going to go right through the intersection. I would much rather be able to control my slide verses not having a choice.
I hear you on that. I have my 05 taco(my first truck w/abs) and it sure does feel like I am not going to stop. I hit the brakes and it seems like the braking power seriouly reduces and you go faster. I have gotten so used to pumping the brakes and controling any slides that this is wierd. My fathers camry w/abs stops better than this truck.
 

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A Camry will stop better than a Tacoma in the snow due to lower weight and skinnier tires. Big off-road tires tend to float on top of the snow. The fact that it most likely has 4-wheel discs doesnt hurt either.
I feel that with ABS you can concentrate on avoiding things (since you have control) and the truck will take care of the stopping. Just make sure you hit the pedal hard, and don't pump it.
 

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absolut taco said:
A Camry will stop better than a Tacoma in the snow due to lower weight and skinnier tires. Big off-road tires tend to float on top of the snow. The fact that it most likely has 4-wheel discs doesnt hurt either.
I feel that with ABS you can concentrate on avoiding things (since you have control) and the truck will take care of the stopping. Just make sure you hit the pedal hard, and don't pump it.
The camry has the same width tires as the stock ones I have on my truck plus it still is the dics/drum setup. But the truck seems to lurch foward when the abs kicks in. And yes, I know not to pump the brakes with abs.
 

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I don't know if you guys are driving automatics or manuals, but when you start sliding, and your ABS kicks in if you were in a manual what would you do? Push in the clutch, right? That stops power from getting to the wheels and the "lurch forward" you are taking about. In an auto things aren't so easy, but same concept: because of the transmission constant forward pull (while in drive) power is still going to the wheels. So even when you hit the brakes, your truck is still pulling forward. So when you feel abs engage and you need to stop quickly, shift into N. You'd be amazed at how much it takes off your stopping distance even on dry pavement.
 

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atwinda said:
I don't know if you guys are driving automatics or manuals, but when you start sliding, and your ABS kicks in if you were in a manual what would you do? Push in the clutch, right? That stops power from getting to the wheels and the "lurch forward" you are taking about. In an auto things aren't so easy, but same concept: because of the transmission constant forward pull (while in drive) power is still going to the wheels. So even when you hit the brakes, your truck is still pulling forward. So when you feel abs engage and you need to stop quickly, shift into N. You'd be amazed at how much it takes off your stopping distance even on dry pavement.
Or just downshift before you stop and let the engine do the braking.
 

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yeah, that would be first in the line of things to do, but once ABS kicks in, and the auto keeps applying torque to the wheels, it creates a longer stopping distance. Seriously, try stopping in N and Drive. you'll be amazed.
 

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atwinda said:
I don't know if you guys are driving automatics or manuals, but when you start sliding, and your ABS kicks in if you were in a manual what would you do? Push in the clutch, right? That stops power from getting to the wheels and the "lurch forward" you are taking about. In an auto things aren't so easy, but same concept: because of the transmission constant forward pull (while in drive) power is still going to the wheels. So even when you hit the brakes, your truck is still pulling forward. So when you feel abs engage and you need to stop quickly, shift into N. You'd be amazed at how much it takes off your stopping distance even on dry pavement.
Sounds reasonable. I have only had manual trans before, this is my first automatic. I will give it a try later to see. these new 05's have been known to lurch foward on dry pavement because of the trans downshifting. We are gettin another 7-12 inches on top of the 30 or so inches that we just got so there is still time to play around!!!!!
 
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