[03trdblack]

http://pesn.com/2005/03/17/6900069_Acetone/

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=143848

Check out these links. What does everything think about this? Anyone ever tried it to see if it actually works without screwing up your engine?

 

[GreenTaco4x4]

I believe it is used when making home made racing gas.

 

[03trdblack]

Well, I don't think the link is making racing gas. It just says to add an ounce of acetone per 10 gallons of fuel and you will increase your gas mileage. Any validity to this?

 

[zero4]

Good find, I'm curious too. So who's gonna try it first and give us results.

 

[03trdblack]

I'm going to try it today. Will be a tank before I can give some results.

 

[tanKoma]

hmm does laquer thinner work as well?

 

[Bryanccfshr]

I would be a bit leary of putting such a harsh solvent in my fuel system. Why not use something that lubricates the Fuelp pump and the injectors without being so harsh on the seals? If you have leaky injectors is this safte to drip past your rings and into your crankcase? 15% sems like an unrealistic number but it's your truck. I use Fuel power at 1oz to 5 gallons and don't have to worry about long term damage. At 26 bucks a gallon it last a long time.

 

[CMB1998]

I would be a bit leary of putting such a harsh solvent in my fuel system. Why not use something that lubricates the Fuelp pump and the injectors without being so harsh on the seals? If you have leaky injectors is this safte to drip past your rings and into your crankcase? 15% sems like an unrealistic number but it's your truck. I use Fuel power at 1oz to 5 gallons and don't have to worry about long term damage. At 26 bucks a gallon it last a long time.

I used to use acetone qutie a bit when I was painting back a few years. That is some harsh stuff. It will chew though rubber without any problems. I would be worried about having that stuff sit it my truck. My main concern would be having it eat through the fuel filter and having little bits of filter going through the injectors.

Entirely up to you. As mentioed before, its your truck. Let us know how it works.

Chris

 

[03trdblack]

I'm only going to try one tankful. If it doesn't do anything, I won't do it anymore. I have to wonder though, its only 2 oz per 18.5 gallons of fuel. Seems to me that that wouldn't really be enough to really harm anything.

Kinda like peeing in the ocean, it'll be diluted a lot. Some of those intake cleaners like seafoam seem pretty harsh too and we use them a lot.

 

[Bryanccfshr]

If you like doping your fuel, use something safe for the entire system. http://www.lubecontrol.com/fuel.htm

Schaeffer's neutra is pretty good too.

 

[KSdblcab]

Interesting, you might want to do some minor experiments first, but note that acetone would do less harm than E85. Try placing a small amount of fuel hose (left over from rear diff mod) in some acetone and gas and observe any degradations over a few weeks to months. I know it's not as quick as simply adding to your tank, which if you're going to do, you might as well place some in a container with fuel line and keep us updated.

Also, remember that acetone is a solvent for paints, plastics, and adhesives and as a chemical intermediate. So don't spill any on your paint, and one might wonder if any damage would occur to the injectors after extended use. Keep us posted and good luck.

 

[GreenTaco4x4]

Well, I don't think the link is making racing gas. It just says to add an ounce of acetone per 10 gallons of fuel and you will increase your gas mileage. Any validity to this?

Obviously not, however it may solve your problem of knowing whether it will hurt your truck or not.

 

[96tacolx]

I was filling up my truck one day and saw this kid put a quart of what looked like rubbing alcohol in his tank. I`m thinking "wtf?" and as soon as he leaves I looked in the trash and sure enough, that`s what it was.

 

[Tankota]

I was filling up my truck one day and saw this kid put a quart of what looked like rubbing alcohol in his tank. I`m thinking "wtf?" and as soon as he leaves I looked in the trash and sure enough, that`s what it was.

It's actually an octane booster, not that I'd use it.. and it's only slight.. Usualy used by somebody either cheap or because they heard about it on the internet..

Isopropyl Alcohol and Tertiary Butyl Alcohol
R+M/2...101
Cost...$0.60-$1.50/gal
Mixtures with 92 Octane Premium
10%...94.5 Octane
20%...Not Recommended
30%...Not Recommended
Notes: Similar to Methanol/Ethanol. Isopropyl Alcohol is simply rubbing alcohol.

 

[Jamier2]

I was filling up my truck one day and saw this kid put a quart of what looked like rubbing alcohol in his tank. I`m thinking "wtf?" and as soon as he leaves I looked in the trash and sure enough, that`s what it was.

I have done that before. Not to improve performance, but I have always heard that it "removes" water from gas. I know that it does not remove the water, but I do know that alcohol is water soluble, and flammable, so maybe it makes the water have a little less effect on the engine when it goes through?

I am ashamed to admit that I only lacked one class for a Chemistry major when I was in college. I never really liked chemistry that much anyway.

 

[hunter8104]

If you like doping your fuel, use something safe for the entire system. http://www.lubecontrol.com/fuel.htm

Schaeffer's neutra is pretty good too.

Have you ever tired that lc20? looks like something that i might try and get

 

[Bryanccfshr]

I have been using it for about 6 months now. I drive my truck so infrequently it is hard to tell if I got a MPG improvement, but I think it helps when my truck sits for a few weeks at a time in preserving the fuel, fighting moisture and keeping the syetem clean when I run it.
On Our trip car, an 04 outlander it just got past 10k and we are apporaching spring. I use LC when I am home and the mileage has steadily been increasing, but that I attribute that to warmer weather and the moly piston rings starting to seat well.

If you have a higher mileage vehicle you may see a more dramatic increase in performance. I like it becasue it is a low cost fuel system maintenance and it doesn't do nasty things to seal or the oil when it blows by the rigns when you burn it. Seafoam, Chevron Techron,BG44 all are extremely rough solvents and get into the oil and reduce it's lubricity. After a lot of research I decided I would rather add this to my gas and carry it in my truck than use other fuel system cleaners.

Try the LC as well. It is neat stuff. and if you follow the instructions of 1 oz per qt on initiial fill and 1 oz ever 1k miles it will keep the oil in very good condition (mine stays cleaner and doesn't darken as fast) due to reduced oxidation. This will reduce the production of deposits. Again. I like it, it works with any oil and is not to out of this world expensive. I have a UOA sample ready to send when I get back home off of a dino run for 6 months using both LC and FP. I just switched to synthetic and will sample in 6 months and attempt to make a year OCI in the Taco if insolubles and beach sand stay low enough.
you can research these products more at www.bobistheoilguy.com. Go to the forum and search in the additives forum as well as the oil analysis forums for Lube control and Fuel power. It sure is better than pouring harsh solvents into your fuel tank.

 

[01tacoTRD]

There is a guy that comes into my work all the time and buys Toluene to put in his Lightning. He says it helps with his fuel economy, some people run it in their vehicles so they can run more timing without causing predetonation. Acetone is a fairly fast evaporating solvent, don't know how much grounds it has for helping your MPG, but I'd look into toluene for a performance gain.

 

[KSdblcab]

Kinda like peeing in the ocean, it'll be diluted a lot. Some of those intake cleaners like seafoam seem pretty harsh too and we use them a lot.

Now that you've been bombarded with several different solvents/chemicals, your best bet would be to add some E85 to your tank if you just want to increase octane. Since pump gas already contains ethanol at a low percentage, and seafoam is just scented snake oil.

Isopropanol; (isopropyl alcohol, 2-propanol, rubbing alcohol) is 70% in water and later oxidized to acetone anyway.
Methanol; is used to denature ethanol (in pump gas), so you should probably pass on that one.
Tertiary butanol; (tertiary butyl alcohol) is just the forth isomer of of butanol
Toluene; (toluol) is a petroleum hydrocarbon, ie containing benzene ring, just say no.
E85 (85% ethanol) is for flexible fuel vehicles and damaging to our tacomas because of the corrosive properties of ethanol, but at low percentages it's still better than trying to become an overnight chemist

Moral of the story/advice; there is no super chemical to significantly increase your mpg or horsepower, and those that do tend to have side effects or hazards. If you are that concerned about increasing hp, mpg, speed, etc. Then the best thing to do is get a car, i.e civic, accord, hybrid, neon, whatever, and drive like a very cautious older individual.

Or be proud that you have the greatest truck on the road, and since it's a truck you're okay with the still decent mpg, hp, capabilities. And you're okay with the fact that it rides like a truck, and you feel the bumps in the road, and don't float down the highway. I'll agree, gas is expensive (not really considering other coutries), but no one ever said the off road hobby was cheap. It's hard to justify a hobby expense if you don't have the money, not that this hobby should be elitest, but the constant complaining is not making it cheaper. Besides, you can increase mpg, hp, paint shine, etc by adding a $4 sticker.

Sorry, this was just one man's rant, and in no way did I intend to offend, so if I did... PISS OFF! <--- Just kidding, always read the fine print.

 

[appa]

Isopropyl alcohol (Rubbing) is used as a gas line antifreeze. It helps to remove water from the gas tank caused by condensation. It works by suspending the water in the gas so it can be run through the fuel sytem with out freezing up in the lines. You see it used a lot here in northern new england during the winters.