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This is one of the largest attended events of the year! The annual Big Bear run has plenty of fun trails for all types of vehicles. Most staff and members will be camping. Trail runs will take place all day Saturday and additional runs usually pop up at night and on Sunday.

VEHICLE REQUIREMENTS: Open to all Prerunners and 4x4s.

All vehicles should have a tow strap, at least 1 tow point on both ends of your rig (stock OK), a fire extinguisher, a first aid kit, a working full size spare tire and tools to change it. Each run has its own additional requirements (see below). A CB radio is highly recommended for communications on the trail.


RUNS:

Prerunner / Stock Run (subject to interest):

Geared toward Prerunners and stock 4x4s, this is a great run for the new comer or those just looking for a nice time in one of the most beautiful mountain areas in Sothern California. This run will either be a tour of Holcomb Valley and the surrounding points of interest or Skyline Drive, Radford Truck Trail and Clarke's Grade. Damage of any kind is very unlikely. The San Bernardino Mountains have a rich history and this will be presented as we visit the interesting and scenic stops along the way. This is a great way to introduce you and your family to the back county in the San Bernardino National Forest and to learn of its many links to the lands below. It will also be a great way to escape the summer heat by having a relaxing time in the mountains! Some stops might require short walks to view the sites. Appropriate shoes and attire are recommended. (This run is subject to cancellation based on number of sign-ups)

Modified 4x4 Moderate Run:
This run will cover trails such as Gold Mountain, White Mountain, and Pontiac Sluice. These trails will include rocky hill climbs, rock gardens and loose dirt. Body damage on these trails is not likely but possible. Minimum requirements include 4wd, rock sliders and rear locker. Additional body armor and skid plates are recommended.

Lifted and Locked Hard Run:
This run will cover such trails as John Bull, Holcomb Creek, Dishpan Springs, Deep Creek and Mottino Wash. These trails are very challenging and cover steep, rocky, off-camber terrain. Minimum requirements include 33” tires, a suspension lift and one locker. Rock sliders and body armor are also recommended. Body damage is possible on these trails.

Planned runs will vary depending on turn-out and some runs may be combined or cancelled as necessary.
If you have any questions please let your trail leader know before starting the trail.

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----Trail Etiquette----

FEES:

None. However you must purchase a Forest Adventure Pass if your vehicle will be parked unattended in an established site. The forest rangers regularly patrol the area. You can be cited if you are parked without an Adventure Pass displayed. Adventure Passes are good for four local National Forests: Angeles, San Bernardino, Cleveland and Los Padres. Complete details including how and where to purchase the passes can be found here. Day passes are $5 and annual passes are $30. The day passes are good for the date validated through 10am the following morning.

Also, if you are planning on using a stove, you will need a fire permit. They can be picked up at any local ranger station or the Discovery Center.


DRIVERS MEETING:

TIME:
9AM Sharp!
Location: TTORA Camp in Holcomb Valley
GPS coords: Main camp - N34 18.290 W116 53.225, 34°18'17.4"N 116°53'13.5"W
Please have your vehicle ready for the trails! This means aired down, packed and ready to depart after the meeting.

COVID-19 SAFETY RULES: Please maintain social distancing with others where possible when outside your vehicle. Use of face coverings are recommended and are required by state mandate when social distancing cannot be maintained.

CAMPING INFO:

Weather conditions average mid to high 40’s at night and high 70’s to 80’s during the day at this time of the year. Please pack and prepare accordingly. This year we'll be staying at our regular camping area off of 3N07. This is open country camping, so no facilities will be available. The strict fire regulations in Big Bear don't allow us to have a campfire at this site. The information is as follows:

TTORA SoCal Campground: From the 18, turn north onto Poligue Cyn. Rd. (2N09). Poligue is due west of the Discovery Center. Take Poligue up to 3N16 and make a right. From 3N16, make a left onto 3N07. If you've reached the Holcomb Valley Campground, you've gone too far on 3N16. Keep right at the intersection of 3N07 and 3N43 to stay on 3N07. Continue to the campsite. 3N07 is a dead end road and the site is couple hundred yards before the end.

"Pack It In, Pack It Out" will be enforced. Let's leave a good impression and leave our campsite in better shape than when we arrived.

The campsite CB channel will be 13 and 144.450 on 2 meter. Those at camp should monitor these channels for trucks trying to find their way.

Please reply with which run you'd like to join (stock, difficult, hard) and if you are interested in camping.

Check out past Big Bear events:
2019, 2018, 2017, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2009
 

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A note about the different groups. Here is what we are expecting for sure at this point-

#1 Moderate run = Trail options - Gold Mountain, White Mountain, Pontiac Sluice
#2 Hard run = Trail options - John Bull, Gold Mountain as primary choices / Optionally Holcomb creek
#3 Hard run = We will add this second hard group as needed to keep the group size down.

Generally the trail leaders will make a final decision about the trails they will lead during the driver meeting. If you have a preference on any specific trail, please let us know.
 

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1. ShowStop - #1 run / Not camping [Trail leader]
2. Rocksurfer - #1 run / Camping
3. Overland714 - #1 run
4. ken_727 - #2 run [Trail leader]
5. Rynohay - #1 run / Camping
6. Scott (Rocksurfer buddy) - #1 run
7. Robb (av8soulfly) - #1 run
8. Bryan (bosco53) - #1 run / camping (Token non-Toyota guy)
9. 1tuffcruiser - #2 run / no camping
10. BASEjumper - #2 run / camping Fri-Sat
11. Markx - #2 run / camping
12. T4RBoris - #2 run
13. mhsl30 - #2 run / no camping
14. Irving Zisman - #2 run / no camping
15. RedStormRising - #1 run / no camping
16. GRIZZLY714 - #2 run / no camping
17. GRIZZLY714 second vehicle - #2 run / no camping
18. kengulo - #1 run / no camping
19. XR250rdr - #1 run / kinda camping
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Group 1 vehicle count - 10 - GROUP FULL
Group 2 vehicle count - 9
 

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I'd like to lead a group on John Bull and either Holcomb Creek, Dishpan Springs,or Gold Mountain.
 

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I would like to join the moderate run and will definetely be camping. Can't wait to get back out there with you guys!
 

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Well 3 maybe, I may have someone with a not so rad rig wanting to go so lets say 3 maybe 2 and god forbid 1 if he's not wanting to push it. So for now 3 and depending on what he breaks out we'll decide on the real level. If you saw some of the rigs (yes he has multiple) he has mild to extreme probably 4 or 5 at the moment. His name is Scott if you want to pencil him in.
 

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Looks like it'll be a moderate run, has a moderate lift and may have a rear locker. I told him to jack the rear up and spin the wheels and if they go the same direction he's got a locker, duh!
 

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1. ShowStop - #1 run / Not camping [Trail leader]
2. Rocksurfer - #1 run / Camping
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4. ken_727 - #2 run [Trail leader]
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4. ken_727 - #2 run [Trail leader]
5. Rynohay - #1 run / Camping
6. Scott (Rocksurfer buddy) - #1 run
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List updated. I don't care what type of vehicle you have as long as its capable of tackling the trails.
 

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List is updated again. I'm going to send out reminders via email and FB today to alert anybody not watching the forum.
 

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Hey, I'm in!
Run group 2. Camping. Maybe some craziness Saturday night or Sunday morning?

BTW, looks like Dishpan Springs is closed, per AllTrails.com
Total bummer, I wanted to do it. The review is from a couple months ago, but from what I've read, Aztec Falls and everything along Deep Creek is closed. Can someone verify?
2N13 between Green Valley Lake and Butler Peak is also closed.
Not sure what else is closed. With that said, make sure we have backup plans for everything.

I went up to Big Bear last Sunday night (had Monday off) and the traffic coming down the 330 was horrendous. It was backed up for 6 miles before the 1 lane. I think I will stay up in Big Bear Sunday night as well.
 
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