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This is one of the largest attended events of the year! The annual Big Bear run has plenty of fun trails for all types of vehicles. Most staff and members will be camping. Trail runs will take place all day Saturday and additional runs usually pop up at night and on Sunday.

VEHICLE REQUIREMENTS: Open to all Prerunners and 4x4s.

All vehicles should have a tow strap, at least 1 tow point on both ends of your rig (stock OK), a fire extinguisher, a first aid kit, a working full size spare tire and tools to change it. Each run has its own additional requirements (see below). A CB radio is highly recommended for communications on the trail.


RUNS:

Prerunner / Stock Run:
Geared toward Prerunners and stock 4x4s, this is a great run for the new comer or those just looking for a nice time in one of the most beautiful mountain areas in Sothern California. This run will either be a tour of Holcomb Valley and the surrounding points of interest or Skyline Drive, Radford Truck Trail and Clarke's Grade. Damage of any kind is very unlikely. The San Bernardino Mountains have a rich history and this will be presented as we visit the interesting and scenic stops along the way. This is a great way to introduce you and your family to the back county in the San Bernardino National Forest and to learn of its many links to the lands below. It will also be a great way to escape the summer heat by having a relaxing time in the mountains! Some stops might require short walks to view the sites. Appropriate shoes and attire are recommended. (This run is subject to cancellation based on number of sign-ups)

Modified 4x4 Moderate Run:
This run will cover trails such as Gold Mountain, White Mountain, Pontiac Sluice and Jacoby Canyon. These trails will include rocky hill climbs, rock gardens and loose dirt. Body damage on these trails is not likely, however rock sliders and skid plates are recommended. 4x4 and a moderate lift are required for these runs. Additionally, a rear locker and off-road tires are required for the White Mtn. trail run.

Lifted and Locked Hard Run:
This run will cover such trails as John Bull, Holcomb Creek, Dishpan Springs, Deep Creek and Mottino Wash. These trails are very challenging and cover steep, rocky, off-camber terrain. Minimum requirements include 33” tires, a suspension lift and one locker. Rock sliders and body armor are also recommended. Body damage is possible on these trails.

Planned runs will vary depending on turn-out and some runs may be combined or cancelled as necessary.
If you have any questions please let your trail leader know before starting the trail.


FEES:

None. However you must purchase a Forest Adventure Pass if your vehicle will be parked unattended in an established site. The forest rangers regularly patrol the area. You can be cited if you are parked without an Adventure Pass displayed. Adventure Passes are good for four local National Forests: Angeles, San Bernardino, Cleveland and Los Padres. Complete details including how and where to purchase the passes can be found here. Day passes are $5 and annual passes are $30. The day passes are good for the date validated through 10am the following morning.

Also, if you are planning on using a stove, you will need a fire permit. They can be picked up at any local ranger station or the Discovery Center.


DRIVERS MEETING:

TIME: 9AM Sharp!
Location: TTORA Camp in Holcomb Valley
GPS coords: Main camp - N34 18.290 W116 53.225, https://goo.gl/maps/CbyQW
Please have your vehicle ready for the trails! This means aired down, packed and ready to depart after the meeting.


CAMPING INFO:

Weather conditions average mid to high 40’s at night and high 70’s to 80’s during the day at this time of the year. Please pack and prepare accordingly. This year we'll be staying at our regular camping area off of 3N07. This is open country camping, so no facilities will be available. The strict fire regulations in Big Bear don't allow us to have a campfire at this site. The information is as follows:

TTORA SoCal Campground: From the 18, turn north onto Poligue Cyn. Rd. (2N09). Poligue is due west of the Discovery Center. Take Poligue up to 3N16 and make a right. From 3N16, make a left onto 3N07. If you've reached the Holcomb Valley Campground, you've gone too far on 3N16. Keep right at the intersection of 3N07 and 3N43 to stay on 3N07. Continue to the campsite. 3N07 is a dead end road and the site is couple hundred yards before the end.

"Pack It In, Pack It Out" will be enforced. Let's leave a good impression and leave our campsite in better shape than when we arrived.

The campsite CB channel will be 13 and 144.450 on 2 meter. Those at camp should monitor these channels for trucks trying to find their way.

Please reply with which run you'd like to join (stock, difficult, hard) and if you are interested in camping.

Check out past Big Bear events:
2018, 2017, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2009
 

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1. ShowStop - #1 run / Not camping [Trail leader]
2. charlton - #1 or #2 / Maybe camping
3. gofj80 - #2 run / Maybe camping
4. Rocksufer - #2 or #3 / Maybe camping
5. RedStormRising - #1 run / Not camping
6. ken_727 - #2 run / Camping Friday, maybe Sat [Trail leader]
7. SafetyDang - #2 run / Not camping
8. Racerray909 - #1 run / Not camping
9. Tundra21 - #1 run / Not camping
10. Dean_Su - #2 run
11. Overland714 - #1 run / Camping Fri & Sat
12. awsumdc - #3 run [Trail Leader]
13. fourbychef - #3 run / Camping
14. JeepExplorer - #1 run / Camping
15. Dawson 5 - #2 run [Trail leader]
16. acal08 - #2 run / No camping
17. GRIZZLY714 - #2 run / Maybe camping
18. GRIZZLY714 guest #2 run / Maybe camping
19. F125gpracr - #2 run
20. Jeff Secord - #2 run
21. quetzal - #1 run
22. smartzombie - #1 run / Camping
23. Steve Thomas - #2 run
24. Toyopnoy - #2 run / Camping Sat
25. Ggundom123 - #2 run
26. av8soulfly - #1 run / Camping
27. T4rBoris - #2 run / No camping
28. Stormin Norm - #2 run / No camping
29. Joseph Herrera - #3 run (maybe)
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A note about the different groups. Here is what we are expecting for sure at this point-

#1 Moderate run = Trail options - Gold Mountain, White Mountain, Pontiac Sluice
#2 Hard run = Trail options - John Bull, Gold Mountain as primary choices / Optionally Holcomb creek
#3 Hard run = Wyatt's group - Gold Mountain to John Bull to Holcomb Creek or Dishpan

Generally the trail leaders will make a final decision about the trails they will lead during the driver meeting. If you have a preference on any specific trail, please let us know.
 

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Definitely want to do John Bull again. Did it last year with Markx on Sunday and it was both of our first times on that trail. I like night runs so if there is at least one other person who wants to go - I'm in.

I'll camp Saturday night for sure and possibly Friday.
 

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Would love to try out Holcomb Creek. For someone moving up from Gold Mountain though, would Holcomb or John Bull be the better step up in difficulty?
 

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Would love to try out Holcomb Creek. For someone moving up from Gold Mountain though, would Holcomb or John Bull be the better step up in difficulty?
Both are a good degree above Gold Mountain. John Bull would probably be the best to try next. Is your vehicle equipped to take on that trail?
 

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In for just Saturday. Question is I’m new so I see you have a beginner trails or has it change to moderate trails. A few weeks ago I did Miller Jeep trail and just got hung up in one area. I’m sure if I had a locker I could of made it
You got high centered on that first big obstacle on Miller. A little bit left and you would have been fine. The moderate run will start with White Mountain. That's a good intro. If you are comfortable with that trail, we'll you through Gold Mountain in the afternoon.

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Both are a good degree above Gold Mountain. John Bull would probably be the best to try next. Is your vehicle equipped to take on that trail?

Sweet definitely have been wanting to get on some harder trails. I just had the new 35's put on and I've been itching to get them out on some real trails.

I do have a rear locker, sliders (gonna try and weld on some more gussets), skids and front and rear bumpers.
 

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Sweet definitely have been wanting to get on some harder trails. I just had the new 35's put on and I've been itching to get them out on some real trails.

I do have a rear locker, sliders (gonna try and weld on some more gussets), skids and front and rear bumpers.
Sounds good. Got you down for that run.
 

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In for just Saturday. Question is I’m new so I see you have a beginner trails or has it change to moderate trails. A few weeks ago I did Miller Jeep trail and just got hung up in one area. I’m sure if I had a locker I could of made it
You got high centered on that first big obstacle on Miller. A little bit left and you would have been fine. The moderate run will start with White Mountain. That's a good intro. If you are comfortable with that trail, we'll you through Gold Mountain in the afternoon.

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Great. I’m in for group 1 white and gold mountain
 

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1. ShowStop - #1 run / Not camping [Trail leader]
2. charlton - #1 or #2 / Maybe camping
3. gofj80 - #2 run / Maybe camping
4. Rocksufer - #2 or #3 / Maybe camping
5. RedStormRising #1 run / Not camping
6. ken_727 #2 run / Camping Friday, maybe Sat [Trail leader]
7. bcusitsjeff #2 run
8. Racerray909 #1 run / Not camping
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Hi, My name is Boris Gamez. Thank you for putting on this event. I would like to run the moderate run. I will be bringing my wife, daughter, dog and my red ‘13 Raptor. For any future communication, my email address is [email protected] Thank you
 
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