[liquidman]

Hey everyone!
I'm knew to the forum so bare with me.
I have an 04' taco 4X4 EXT Cab TRD and I've installed some Sway-A-Way Tacoma Racerunner 2.0 coilovers on the front and have cranked them up to show 2.5" of thread.
I understand that having the coilovers cranked up reduces the droop that the A-arm will have and as a result it has made the front end a bit bouncy and a little stiff.
I am wondering If I can crank down the coil-overs to maybe an 1" and add something like a 1 1/2" cornfed spacers on top of the coilovers to still give it the height, but reduce the bounce/stiffness, yet keep good angles on my CV's.
Has anyone done this setup and if so can you provide any feedback? I did see on one of the forums where a guy had an '03 4Runner that had some spacers on top of a coilover setup.

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2004 Toyota Tacoma 4X4 TRD EXT Cab TRD
Racerunner coilovers - saw # 52000-108-5
OME Rear lift springs
OME Rear shocks
Mickey Thompson 16X8
BFG All-terrain 285-75/R16 (32.83in)
Alpine MP3
Infininity 6 1/2 all way around.
Infinity 10"
Alpine 300W amp.
(I'll try and clean up the specs later.)

 

[DCabTaco]

Adding spacers and cranking the coilovers is essentially doing the same thing. They both add lift by preloading the coils.

 

[liquidman]

If I'm reducing the coil compression (Thread compression) and adding a spacer on top of the coil then I wouldn't be compressing the coils as much, right? Therefore - I wouldn't be preloading the coils as much. Just want to make sure we're on the same page. I'm no master technician, but please indulge me with some techy advise.

 

[rojodiablo]

You will STILL reduce the available droop. Your taco has like 8-9 inches of total travel. So, if you sit dead center when stock, you get 4-4.5 inches of droop. Push up the truck in any way, without relocating any a-arm mounting points, and you are taking away droop. The options for extending travel are limited , mostly by a long travel kit. Any other option would include MAD amounts of money, or a straight axle system. Even with a Fabtech system, you keep the stock travel and geometry, just lots more lift. I would stick to the coilovers.

 

[rojodiablo]

You will STILL reduce the available droop. Your taco has like 8-9 inches of total travel. So, if you sit dead center when stock, you get 4-4.5 inches of droop. Push up the truck in any way, without relocating any a-arm mounting points, and you are taking away droop. The options for extending travel are limited , mostly by a long travel kit. Any other option would include MAD amounts of money, or a straight axle system. Even with a Fabtech system, you keep the stock travel and geometry, just lots more lift. I would stick to the coilovers.

 

[atwinda]

cranked them up to show 2.5" of thread.

FYI: 2.5" of thread does not mean you have 2.5" of lift. You would need before and after messurements to determine how much lift you ended up with.

I would say that if your ride is bouncy and harsh that you have gone too high. Back them off a little until you like the ride.

 

[hawthorne]

back them off or get diffenrt coils that you wouldnt have to crank down so much

 

[04RedLobster]

cornfed spacers are in coil spacers...so i don't believe they can be stacked on top of the coilovers...

 

[DCabTaco]

If I'm reducing the coil compression (Thread compression) and adding a spacer on top of the coil then I wouldn't be compressing the coils as much, right? Therefore - I wouldn't be preloading the coils as much. Just want to make sure we're on the same page. I'm no master technician, but please indulge me with some techy advise.

I think you are thinking of the type of spavers Revtek uses on top of the coil pack. However no matter what type of spacer you use you are not relocating the whole front suspension, like in a drop bracket lift, so your wheel travel will always be limiting the higher you go. Since you don't drop the differential with this kind of lift, your CV angels will be just as bad with any combination suspension lift(using spacers/coilovers). The only way you can get more lift without affecting the CV angles is with a body lift. Even a drop bracket lift doesn't always bring your CV's to stock angles.

 

[Breathegood]

I have the same setup you do, but have nowhere near 2.5" of thread showing for 2.5" of lift. If you like I'll go measure my threads at lunch. You would be well advised to lower your SAW's a little, but no, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD YOU COMBINE A SPACER WITH ADJUSTABLE COILOVER LIFT! This question has been asked incesantly since the new board started. I don't remember people ever asking this on the old board.

 

[Breathegood]

I have the 15" - 675# coils with 1-5/8" thread showing for exactly 2.5" of lift.

 

[liquidman]

Breathegood ~ You rock!! Castle Rock was just up the road sort of speaking from my old home down in C/S, CO. Now I'm stuck out here in Flat Lands Illinois working. I hope to get back west SOON!!
Anyhow, thanks for your posts as well as everyone else. After speaking with Jerry over at Camburg and reading the forums and with your measurments I think it all just comes down to a nice day and climbing underneeth my rig and cranking down my SAW's about 3/4-1".
I think I got so excited about installing my new SAW's last October '04 I forgot to do before and after measurments, Oops... I could have measured a similar rig, but I figured I was pre-loaded on the springs well enough, but after about 3 month of pogo stick abuse from the stiff front end I think it's time to back them off a little.
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2004 Toyota Tacoma 4X4 TRD EXT Cab TRD
Racerunner coilovers - saw # 52000-108-5
Rhino liner
OME Rear lift springs
OME Rear shocks
Mickey Thompson 16X8
BFG All-terrain 285-75/R16 (32.83in)
Alpine MP3
Infininity 6 1/2 all way around.
Infinity 10"
Alpine 300W amp.
(I'll try and clean up the specs later.)

 

[Breathegood]

Hope your ride improves. I think the SAW's ride great, and as much as I'd like the extra inch of droop, I have no reason to step up to Hoe's or Camburgs. Let me know if you want my exact before and after lift measurements and I'll dig them up.

 

[trdtacostand04]

saw 2.0

when the SAWS first came out they came in 2 different spring rates, one was 650 lb's and the other was 675 lb's. the 650 was made for the tacoma and the 675 was made for the tundra/sequoia. most taco guys that had winches and aftermarket bumpers went with the 675 lb. springs because of the extra weight. so sway-away just started making the 2.0 in 675 only to cut cost. i got one of the later batches that were 675 for my taco about 2 years ago, and they ride nice out of the box but cranked up they are not the smoothest, im sitting on 2 inches of thread and a 1 inch all pro diff drop. my cv's are fine with plenty of fin cleareance, its just not worth going any higher to sacrifice lift for ride. i wish i would have saved up a little more and got the kings, DR's, or the newer camburg/swayaway 2.5's. my biggest beef with the 2.0's is the fixed mount on top, all the before mentioned coilovers have swivel mounts. i wonder why that is? still a great shock, they've never failed me

 

[Texan1983]

whats the advantage to the swivel mounts??

 

[Super Doody]

Hey everyone!
I'm knew to the forum so bare with me.

Whenever someone with this statement you know its a topic thats been disgusted to death here. Please search.