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Hello Everyone,

ALRIGHT!!

Second (To Be Annual) Death Valley Trip is shaping up!

Post Trip Pictures and Details: http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=185155

This year I’m planning a more ambitious four-day / three night trip (Friday-Monday) to explore the northwest Saline Valley region. I’d like to make this trip accessible to as many folks as possible so there will also be the option of departing on day three for those who need to return to Vegas on Sunday.

For those who have not explored this area, Death Valley is an incredible experience, especially when you have a vehicle that can take you well beyond the pavement. The national park and surrounding areas have a lot to offer the overland enthusiast, but it is also an area where you need to adequately prepare, and take every precaution while in the backcountry.

Dates:
March - Fri. 8th to Mon. 11th

Attendee List
modsquad (Andrew)
Ludedude (JP)
Glory (Charlie)
vegastoy
sngltrak1

Revised Departure Details:
Where – Blue Diamond Travel Center (Blue Diamond RT160 and Charleson Blvd RT159) **Gas up at another station, expensive here**
When - Friday March 8th. Meet at 2:30, Depart by 3pm

I'll take care of the Cal. Fire Permit. We wont need any other permits in terms of NPS or group size.

Route Details:
(Day One):
Leave Vegas around 8am and arrive at overnight campsite before 6pm.

We will approach DV from the southeast through Pahrump, via Hwy 190 (3~4 Hours). At Panamint Springs we’ll have the chance to top off fuel and water. Fuel is expensive here $4.50~5.00/Gal., but this fill up will be REQUIRED to make it into and out-of the Saline Valley.

12 miles west of Panamint Springs we’ll leave the pavement (until day three), air down, and head north towards Hunter Mountain. We’ll take South Pass (6000ft) and keep heading north towards Hidden Valley. Time and light permitting we’ll cross Hidden Valley to connect with Racetrack Valley Road and head south past The Racetrack playa, home of the “sailing stones”. The campsite will be just south of the dry lakebed at the Homestake Dry Camp.

(Day Two): Depart around 9-10am, head south on Lippincott Trail to enter the Saline Valley, only 3-4 hours of travel, camping at natural hot springs, enjoying the afternoon/evening.

Lippincott is a difficult trail with very narrow sections of shelf road, uphill traffic has the right of way and we will be going downhill, but recent reports put it at the best conditions it’s been in a while (7 miles ~2 Hours). From here we’ll connect with the Saline Valley Road and head north. This Valley is incredibly expansive and isolated. It is also a training area for military aircraft; last time I was here we saw some incredible dogfights.

For those of you with HAM (or Icom receivers, me, I am pursuing a HAM license) you can tune in, which is great fun, I have the frequencies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3z0wzDvN5Y
(forward to 0:45, terrible video quality, but gives you an idea of the awesomeness)

It’ll be ~30 miles to the warm springs. There are three separate spring areas; the lower two areas have been built up into many large pools. There were only a few folks here when I came out. Apart from soaking as much as you want, you’ll also be able to shower and wash dishes here with running hot water.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py8TllwL7fI

I heard that that this place turns into a hippy community when there is a crowd. Just be ready for some leftist conversation and copious nudity. Volunteers do a great job maintaining the springs and everyone does a communal potluck dinner on Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights. This is where we’ll camp on day two.

(Day Three): Depart hot springs around 8-9am and head north over Steel Pass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpBJvos52O8

Steel Pass is a rough 30 mile trail with a degree of winding canyon climb. Once over Steel Pass we’ll visit the Eureka Dunes and then turn back south through Hanging Rock Canyon to approach Scotty’s Castle. Time and interest permitting we can take the 5 mile trip to check out Ubehebe Crater. From here we’ll rejoin the pavement and head south towards Stovepipe Wells (~30 miles).

For those who need to return before the third night, they can rejoin the CA-190 and head south towards Pahrump.

For those who wish to camp Sunday night, we’ll head south on the CA-190 to meet up with the Echo Canyon Trail. We’ll camp a legal distance from the pavement along the trail and then complete the trail heading northeast in the morning of day four.

(Day Four): Continue northeast through Echo Canyon (Narrow and challenging). Check out Inyo Mine. Rejoin pavement on Amargosa Farm Road. Return Las Vegas and other points east via Route 373 to Hwy 95 South.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU1kNBDZx80

Required Equipment:
CB communications
Cold weather clothing and camping gear
4WD w/ low range (NOT 2WD friendly, 4x4 w/ rear locker preferred)
IFS skid or some form of oil pan skid plate (thicker than stock preferred)
Tires with decent off-road tread and at least one full spare (street tires won’t last 30 minutes out here)
Shovel
4-5 gallons water supply
10-15 gallons extra fuel supply
6+ bundles of firewood (the more the better)
food (duh)
Sense of humor

Suggested Equipment:
2-3 inch lift preferred
Sliders
Hi-Lift
Onboard Air
Basic tools, supplies, spare parts, and recovery gear for your vehicle

Warning:
Last year a couple of folks experienced minor damage (stock bumpers, X-members, etc.). Do not attend this event if you’re not modified/protected, if you can’t afford the damage, or if want your baby looking show-room fresh. These are tough trails; some wear and tear is to be expected out here.

I hope to get a great group together like we had on last years run! Please post up any questions/comments/suggestions and your interest level!

Andrew M.
 

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Those dates works for me. I'll add it to the options. What areas were you planning on visiting? I'm open to changes.
I havent really given it much thought. The only thing we wanted to see for sure is the race track. (didn't get to see it last time). I looked your route over on the map and it sounds good to me. Looks like your going by the race track.
 

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Well I just ordered everything I need to get the 4runner back on the road. Hopefully ill have it done so I can make this trip.
 

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G. Damn, you F'n losers! How come no one is interested in doing this run? I thought last year was so much fun. Was I the only one who had a good time? It was my first time camping. There was the bridge I was to heavy for. Going down that hill that Mike and I went down off of that shelf road, that scared me half to death. Sitting around the camp fire converting a bunch of infidels as if I were a young bald Jesus. Charlie and JP hold up in a cabin overnight like a couple of outlaws (or "special friends."). Anyway I can't believe theres not more interest. Come on you NVTTO(n)RA members, adventure awaits.


Disclaimer: The above message is in no way meant to hurt, offend, or anger any persons or groups who read it. It is meant completely in jest. I apologize in advance to those who might feel offended. That being said last year really was a whole lot of fun.
 

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[ Anyway I can't believe theres not more interest. Come on you NVTTO(n)RA members, adventure awaits.


Andrew, Thanks for the trip plan, was layed out well.
Any alternatives routes that would allow me to do part of the trip?
What about the first two days?

My truck flunked the physical...



Required Equipment:

4WD w/ low range (NOT 2WD friendly, 4x4 w/ rear locker preferred)
IFS skid or some form of oil pan skid plate (thicker than stock preferred)
Tires with decent off-road tread and at least one full spare (street tires won’t last 30 minutes out here)
2-3 inch lift preferred, but not required


Hi-Lift
 

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ive been waiting for something like this. I got surgery onmy right knee 12/11/2012. will ask doctor if im go to do this trip. but if i go i might bring another 4runner with me and maybe a jeep if thats cool with you guys. so feb 8-10 would be my days if i go. so friday saturday and come back sunday unless doctor give me two more day off work cause of my knee:D
 

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Your posts are the best Chuck!

For those who may be considering coming along on this trip...

Andrew "modsquad" is a great trip planner, the guy basically offroads everyday and he really looks out for the group. Don't let this trip pass you by, Death Valley is an incredible place to explore.
 

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Oh Danny I just saw your post. Your truck can make it through fine, not fast and not possibly not unscathed but we will get you through it.

One time we were out there and a crazy old man came buzzing through the roughest part of a waterfall with a bone stock 4x4 ranger. After multiple try's and stacking rocks we got him through.
 

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Oh Danny I just saw your post. Your truck can make it through fine, not fast and not possibly not unscathed but we will get you through it.

One time we were out there and a crazy old man came buzzing through the roughest part of a waterfall with a bone stock 4x4 ranger. After multiple try's and stacking rocks we got him through.
I wish there was a way to tell that story and do it justice. It's one of those "you had to be there" stories. Wasn't Danny W/ us?
 

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Alot of my parts show up tomorrow for the 4runner. I will be hammering this bad boy out in hopes to have it done by this trip. If I have a vote on dates it would be later then earlier. I guess worst case I can bring the taco.
 

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I was offended at the offensive nature of your insinuation that we have not been converted. :D

Disclaimer: The above message is in no way meant to hurt, offend, or anger any persons or groups who read it. It is meant completely in jest. I apologize in advance to those who might feel offended. That being said last year really was a whole lot of fun.
 

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One note on this trip. Buy your gas elsewhere before you get to the Blue Diamond Travel Plaza. The guy there is a ripoff! His gas prices at times are $1 higher than anywhere else in town.
 
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