[rojodiablo]

Okay. Smoked 'em BOTH at Calico. But not like last time. They are holding pressure, but are puking oil. So, hopefully we can just rebuild the Bilstiens, and move on. Decided to play engineer for the day, while replacing the shocks in them. Took off the spring, and reassembled them. Installed them, minus spring... still on jacks, mind you. Cycled them with a floor jack under the a-arm. BOTTOM out 1/8" BEFORE the bumpstops make contact. BAD bad bad. Also, found out that between the 4 bilstien shocks I have here, there are 3 DIFFERENT travel lengths. That is straight from Bilstien...So, as a fix, I: Removed the lower shock bushing from the upper end of the shock assembly. This is a 3/4" thick rubber bushing. Or it was.... used a grinder, and made a little clearance.... it is now 3/8 " tall. Went to auto parts store, and found shock mounting bushings. $4.95 They fit the piston shaft snugly, and just became my new shock bumpstops.Re-installed and cycled, they have a good 1/8" clearance when the bumpstops make contact. Plus, the bumpstop on the shaft engages 5/16" before the bumpstop, which will hopefully make these things last a bit longer. The top-out issue seems to be a moot point, as there is almost 7/8" down travel to be compressed when installing the unit, and the system rests with 3/4" down travel still unused on the shock body, while the front end is in the air. I have the Downeys as a "wait 'till I have the money for long travel!!! thing" I must say, they work well,and ride nice, and for a mild wheeler/ rock crawler, they should be fine. I am finding the limits with this truck, and in the case of these, I am finding the limits FAST. I'm posting this as a mental note for you who own them, and may find some problems with them, but cannot afford/ don't want to replace them. Any questions and comments are welcome. Cory, desert TRD, I have some serious questions for you,. please email me, or PM me. Thanks, Paul.

 

[DesertTRD]

Okay. Smoked 'em BOTH at Calico. But not like last time. They are holding pressure, but are puking oil. So, hopefully we can just rebuild the Bilstiens, and move on. Decided to play engineer for the day, while replacing the shocks in them. Took off the spring, and reassembled them. Installed them, minus spring... still on jacks, mind you. Cycled them with a floor jack under the a-arm. BOTTOM out 1/8" BEFORE the bumpstops make contact. BAD bad bad. Also, found out that between the 4 bilstien shocks I have here, there are 3 DIFFERENT travel lengths. That is straight from Bilstien...So, as a fix, I: Removed the lower shock bushing from the upper end of the shock assembly. This is a 3/4" thick rubber bushing. Or it was.... used a grinder, and made a little clearance.... it is now 3/8 " tall. Went to auto parts store, and found shock mounting bushings. $4.95 They fit the piston shaft snugly, and just became my new shock bumpstops.Re-installed and cycled, they have a good 1/8" clearance when the bumpstops make contact. Plus, the bumpstop on the shaft engages 5/16" before the bumpstop, which will hopefully make these things last a bit longer. The top-out issue seems to be a moot point, as there is almost 7/8" down travel to be compressed when installing the unit, and the system rests with 3/4" down travel still unused on the shock body, while the front end is in the air. I have the Downeys as a "wait 'till I have the money for long travel!!! thing" I must say, they work well,and ride nice, and for a mild wheeler/ rock crawler, they should be fine. I am finding the limits with this truck, and in the case of these, I am finding the limits FAST. I'm posting this as a mental note for you who own them, and may find some problems with them, but cannot afford/ don't want to replace them. Any questions and comments are welcome. Cory, desert TRD, I have some serious questions for you,. please email me, or PM me. Thanks, Paul.

what do you want?

 

[HardTaco]

what do you want?

Please give him advice on how to kill himself, thannks Corey.

 

[Baja Belk]

Took off the spring, and reassembled them. Installed them, minus spring... still on jacks, mind you. Cycled them with a floor jack under the a-arm. BOTTOM out 1/8" BEFORE the bumpstops make contact. BAD bad bad.

They bottom out early without the spring because the spring binds before the shaft bottoms out. (pretty sure, could be wrong)

 

[rojodiablo]

They bottom out early without the spring because the spring binds before the shaft bottoms out. (pretty sure, could be wrong)

No, we haven't seen any coil slap, or evidence of binding. When we strapped the frame down, and cycled it with the spring in on a rack at a body shop, the springs were fine when we hit the bumpstops.
Cory, you know about the rebuilding of shocks. Why would there be so much difference in available travel, from the 'same' shocks. Up to 1/4" difference between the 4 I have here. And, when they get rebuilt, can we install internal bumpstops for topping/ bottoming out? How much travel will get eaten up if this is done? Thanks for any input.

 

[DesertTRD]

No, we haven't seen any coil slap, or evidence of binding. When we strapped the frame down, and cycled it with the spring in on a rack at a body shop, the springs were fine when we hit the bumpstops.
Cory, you know about the rebuilding of shocks. Why would there be so much difference in available travel, from the 'same' shocks. Up to 1/4" difference between the 4 I have here. And, when they get rebuilt, can we install internal bumpstops for topping/ bottoming out? How much travel will get eaten up if this is done? Thanks for any input.

YOU cant rebuild a bilstein 5100..... you dont have the machinery to do it, bilstein does but you dont.

Also your 4 different sizes could be because you have 4 different part numbers there.. ever think about that???

 

[rojodiablo]

YOU cant rebuild a bilstein 5100..... you dont have the machinery to do it, bilstein does but you dont.

Also your 4 different sizes could be because you have 4 different part numbers there.. ever think about that???

I wasn't wondering much if I would be able to rebuild them myself, but I was wondering if the bumpstops can be added, and what do I gain/lose in the process. Now that you point it out, I have checked th esizes on the 4 shocks. All are F4-B46-2284-HO Typ2/- . All are the same. Any ideas??? P.S., to keep the you/I are such dickheads thing going,...check "the well of know it all". I believe it is running dry in your part of town... Seriously, any ideas why there is so much difference?? Thanks, Paul.

 

[DesertTRD]

I wasn't wondering much if I would be able to rebuild them myself, but I was wondering if the bumpstops can be added, and what do I gain/lose in the process. Now that you point it out, I have checked th esizes on the 4 shocks. All are F4-B46-2284-HO Typ2/- . All are the same. Any ideas??? P.S., to keep the you/I are such dickheads thing going,...check "the well of know it all". I believe it is running dry in your part of town... Seriously, any ideas why there is so much difference?? Thanks, Paul.

you know i was trying to be nice and answer part of your questions, but now im not going to.. you may not comprehend this but I used to sell bilstein parts along with every other part you have ever heard for your truck. aswell as install 99% of them.. I know what the fuck is going on.. so now with that being said, go look it up, because im done with this talk.

 

[rojodiablo]

you know i was trying to be nice and answer part of your questions, but now im not going to.. you may not comprehend this but I used to sell bilstein parts along with every other part you have ever heard for your truck. aswell as install 99% of them.. I know what the fuck is going on.. so now with that being said, go look it up, because im done with this talk.

MY mistake. The well ran dry a few posts back!! Now, if you're done crying, why would there be so much difference, and how much does the travel change in the shock? You, being the all knowing and all seeing OZ, gave me a puzzle. I have solved this puzzle, and I am wanting to get back home. I have found the ruby slippers. So help me out with my questions... this is a question/ forum.

 

[tenntaco]

So help me out with my questions... this is a question/ forum.

Maybe you should have listened instead of spouting off.

 

[HardTaco]

MY mistake. The well ran dry a few posts back!! Now, if you're done crying, why would there be so much difference, and how much does the travel change in the shock? You, being the all knowing and all seeing OZ, gave me a puzzle. I have solved this puzzle, and I am wanting to get back home. I have found the ruby slippers. So help me out with my questions... this is a question/ forum.

And you are still a detriment to this forum you asshole. I wish your mom woulda swallowed.

 

[Tweeter]

Or he's just trying to get some answers for a legit question in an offroading forum designed to help/answer peoples questions. It's just too bad some people are too into stroking their own pussies...I mean egos, to answer a legit question.

 

[DesertTRD]

Or he's just trying to get some answers for a legit question in an offroading forum designed to help/answer peoples questions. It's just too bad some people are too into stroking their own pussies...I mean egos, to answer a legit question.

 

[Tweeter]

The well is definitely running dry on your side of town

 

[DesertTRD]

The well is definitely running dry on your side of town

 

[rojodiablo]

Maybe you should have listened instead of spouting off.

I did listen. I checked the shock numbers, before I even posted. That is why I wondered how the travel would be different. Furthermore, I still haven't heard if the internal bumpstops can be added, and what changes occur. BTW, the link you have didn't work for your search function. Talk about spouting off.....

 

[LavosTRD]

you sir.....are a dumbass

 

[tenntaco]

I did listen. I checked the shock numbers, before I even posted. That is why I wondered how the travel would be different. Furthermore, I still haven't heard if the internal bumpstops can be added, and what changes occur.

You have 4 of the same exact shocks, and you cycled all 4 on the same side and got 3 different numbers? I'd say you're either making a mistake somewhere or the shocks are defective/fucked up/ etc... Call Bilstien. As for the internal bumpstops, I'm no expert, but I would think that if your shit was setup properly, you wouldn't even need to ask that question.

BTW, the link you have didn't work for your search function. Talk about spouting off.....

I can't help it that you suck at the internet.

 

[rojodiablo]

You have 4 of the same exact shocks, and you cycled all 4 on the same side and got 3 different numbers? I'd say you're either making a mistake somewhere or the shocks are defective/fucked up/ etc... Call Bilstien. As for the internal bumpstops, I'm no expert, but I would think that if your shit was setup properly, you wouldn't even need to ask that question.



I can't help it that you suck at the internet.

First, the link worked fine the second time I ran it, so your link does work fine. Second, that is the jist of my question... Why 3 different travel numbers for 4 shocks??? I'm not spouting anything here, just wondering why this might be. Do ALL thier shocks have these kind of discrepancies?? And I agree with your little quote on the bottom of your post, at least partially. I don't think you are that bad...

 

[mudferret]

Your flaming is misplaced sometimes, why bite the hand that feeds and then chase it up with a question?