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Aight fellas. I'm pretty much canning the idea of SSRs...........to worried that i won't get the amount of wear out of them i want. I'm going with a less aggresive tire that has been proven to last 50+k miles. That would include BFG mts, GY mtr's, and the bridgestone dueler and firestone Destination mts. I like to be a bit different than everyone else so i'm not going with the BFG ot GYs. nothing against them but i do think they tend to be overpriced.

Is the an appriciable difference between the bridgestone and firestone tires?? the website lists that the bridgeston has a couple features that he firestone doesn't. they are some kinda noise canceling technology and radial wrap that aids in high speed stability. The firestones run cheaper than the bridgestone.

Now sizing. Fellas at work run 265/75/16s a/ts on there stock rims and seem to have no problems. My question is if i decide to go with a mickey Thompson Classic II rim in 16x8 will that make the tire shorter? If so will iit be short enought that it woun't rub on the pinch weld? Would he right BS be 3.5 or 4??? Tire shops keep telling me that they wount order taco bolt patterns in 15" cause they hit the brake caliper so i'll probably have to go with a 16 if i order a tire package locally. I'm shopping around so if i can order the rims on the net cheaper and have the tires mounted locally that's how i'll get the 15"rims.......i'll prolly have to run the stock wheels till i get the extra coin for the M/Ts anyway.

Has ANYONE ever had a problem with 15x8 MT classic II's not fitting?

What bs is everyone running. sticking out a little would be just fine so long as it doesn't get to bad. i don't get to little and rub the upper control arm. so would 3.25,3.5 or 4 be right.

sorry bout the long post. i'm just trying to make the best decision. maybe it'll help someone else out also.
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Aight fellas. I'm pretty much canning the idea of SSRs...........to worried that i won't get the amount of wear out of them i want. I'm going with a less aggresive tire that has been proven to last 50+k miles. That would include BFG mts, GY mtr's, and the bridgestone dueler and firestone Destination mts. I like to be a bit different than everyone else so i'm not going with the BFG ot GYs. nothing against them but i do think they tend to be overpriced.

Is the an appriciable difference between the bridgestone and firestone tires?? the website lists that the bridgeston has a couple features that he firestone doesn't. they are some kinda noise canceling technology and radial wrap that aids in high speed stability. The firestones run cheaper than the bridgestone.

Now sizing. Fellas at work run 265/75/16s a/ts on there stock rims and seem to have no problems. My question is if i decide to go with a mickey Thompson Classic II rim in 16x8 will that make the tire shorter? If so will iit be short enought that it woun't rub on the pinch weld? Would he right BS be 3.5 or 4??? Tire shops keep telling me that they wount order taco bolt patterns in 15" cause they hit the brake caliper so i'll probably have to go with a 16 if i order a tire package locally. I'm shopping around so if i can order the rims on the net cheaper and have the tires mounted locally that's how i'll get the 15"rims.......i'll prolly have to run the stock wheels till i get the extra coin for the M/Ts anyway.

Has ANYONE ever had a problem with 15x8 MT classic II's not fitting?

What bs is everyone running. sticking out a little would be just fine so long as it doesn't get to bad. i don't get to little and rub the upper control arm. so would 3.25,3.5 or 4 be right.

sorry bout the long post. i'm just trying to make the best decision. maybe it'll help someone else out also.
cart
people need to know what year,model,lift you are running before they can ask ur question correctly

i would choose dueler over firestone.....
you get what you pay for..
 

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sorry...... i have a 2004 d-cab, 4x4, trd sr5. thx.
 

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I would pick the Firestone M/T over the Bridgestone M/T due to the more aggressive sidewalls.
 

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I have 33x12.50 Bridgestone MT's with about 28k miles on them(baught them with 25k on them) and I would say I have about 60% tread left on them. Really great tire and quiet.As to be exspected,they don't perform as good as my swampers did,but then again,I only got about 8k miles out of them.
 

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I have 33x12.50 Bridgestone MT's with about 28k miles on them(baught them with 25k on them) and I would say I have about 60% tread left on them. Really great tire and quiet.As to be exspected,they don't perform as good as my swampers did,but then again,I only got about 8k miles out of them.
wouldn't expect them to touch Swampers in the mud. but i'm sure they'll outlast them. Which Swampers did you have???

Also what BS would i go with so that a 265/75/16 would come to the edge, maybe just peek out slightly from the fender flair. They can't hang way out. For one in WV that's illegal, and two that looks silly....... I want a set of Mickey Thompson Classic II BAD!!!!!

Has anyone ever had a problem with 15" Mickey's not fittin on a '04 taco??? Dealers round here won't order them for me......all are saying they won't fit....

thanks for the opinions!
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wouldn't expect them to touch Swampers in the mud. but i'm sure they'll outlast them. Which Swampers did you have???

Also what BS would i go with so that a 265/75/16 would come to the edge, maybe just peek out slightly from the fender flair. They can't hang way out. For one in WV that's illegal, and two that looks silly....... I want a set of Mickey Thompson Classic II BAD!!!!!

Has anyone ever had a problem with 15" Mickey's not fittin on a '04 taco??? Dealers round here won't order them for me......all are saying they won't fit....

thanks for the opinions!
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I'd go anywhere from 4" to 3.75" backspacing. I run 3.75 w/33x12.5's and it sticks out about 2" from the fender. P.s. The Destination M/T's are great tires, 2 of my buddies have them, one w/a jeep and one w/a 3/4 ton chevy and both have done great with the tires. I personally recommend goodyear Mt/r's since i'm running them and love them but to each his own. The Destination m/t's will clean out in mud better than the mt/r's will.
 

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wouldn't expect them to touch Swampers in the mud. but i'm sure they'll outlast them. Which Swampers did you have???
I had the swamper LTB's. As far as back spacing goes,I had a BS of 3.25 on my steel rims that were 15x8 with a 34x10.5 swamper and they did not stick out at all see here http://community.webshots.com/photo/69000242/70208313WhvsJU
 

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TRD4WD said:
I had the swamper LTB's. As far as back spacing goes,I had a BS of 3.25 on my steel rims that were 15x8 with a 34x10.5 swamper and they did not stick out at all see here http://community.webshots.com/photo/69000242/70208313WhvsJU
Thanks alot for the pic. that's the width i'm looking for! gonna have to wait a bit for the hight though......funds are gonna be limited to tires, and my be able to eak out rims. 3.25 it will be then!

thanks alot for the help fellas!

just checked MT homepage. if i go with classic II i'll have to go with 3 5/8 BS in 16 or 3 5/16 in a 15. not a big enough difference to base my desicion off that. the bolt pattern i need is 6/5.5 correct? i'm pretty sure it is.
 

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I have the firestone's and highly recommend them. As were you said that the bridgestones have noise cancelling tech.? i wouldnt worry about that, the firestones are EXTREMELY quiet for a MT.
 

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I've had the Gy MTR, the Bridgestone deuler, and currently the BFG Muds. The BFGs are the best all around road, rock, mud tire IMHO. The deulers come in second, with really good road manners and they clean out we'll. I've seen the Destinations in the mud and I'm not impressed, neither was the owner of them.
 

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I just got the Destination M/T s a few weeks ago (265-75-16) on the stock wheels on my DC 4x4 and they are great. They are a bit noisy, but not as noisy as the BFG's or MT-R's. They look bitchin too. Worked fine in Pismo last weekend!!
 

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I just got the Destination M/T s a few weeks ago (265-75-16) on the stock wheels on my DC 4x4 and they are great. They are a bit noisy, but not as noisy as the BFG's or MT-R's. They look bitchin too. Worked fine in Pismo last weekend!!
is your dub cab lifted of stock height? any rubbing issues?
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I have OME 881's in front, stock in rear and they are fine on the pavement. Driving like an ass in the sand on dunes they rubbed a bit. I am getting the Donahoe/bilstein garb tomorrow to cure that though. Jason Demello said that I wouldn't have had a problem if I would have had the firestone place allign the A Arms foreward. I love the look of them though. I have a Black DC and they look scary on it.
 

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bought how much lift is the OME's giving ya?
 

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I have a set of bridgestone muds 32x11.5's on 15x8 chrome steelies and the brigstones new are about as loud as my old BFG AT's that i sold with 30K on them. I'm very happy with the bridgstones as they have given great performance on and off road in dry, wet, and as of last week, snowy conditions. Just my .02 but those are the only 2 brands I have ever owned.
 
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