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Ok, so I bought the 60 dollar bolt on hose, it's here and it's very nice.

How do I hook the box up? I have only 1 hose from bent up. Which I assume is the high pressure side. Thing is that on the high pressure side of the pump, there is a banjo style bolt with vaccume lines.

Do I replace this? How should I plumb the IFS box?

Engine is a 2.7.
 

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the hose threads into the box and the other side goes straight into the pump. both the box and the pump have the same thread size/ pitch. You ditch the entire line w/ the banjo fitting. there is either a wire or a vacuum hose on the old banjo as well which is the idle up sensor which you dont need anymore.
 

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So then the low pressure side is just normal hose? Do you just re-use the hardware that came off the steering rack for that?
 

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the return line is just plain jane low pressure return hose w/ a hose clamp on each end. should be able to pick it up at any auto store.
if u have any questions you can reach me on my cell at 925-785-0976 or my bro aj at 916-207-7467.
 

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the hose threads into the box and the other side goes straight into the pump. both the box and the pump have the same thread size/ pitch. You ditch the entire line w/ the banjo fitting. there is either a wire or a vacuum hose on the old banjo as well which is the idle up sensor which you dont need anymore.
Hey Chuck, that's an awesome idea! I have gone through about 4 custom hoses now that leak at the fittings. I might have to try out one of your hoses.

I have a question though, why use banjo bolts in the first place? There must be some sort of reason.

Later,
....Mike
 

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One last question, which hole on an IFS box is the high pressure side and which one is the low pressure?
 

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10-4,

So in this chart, I replace 44411 with your hose and then screw 44416 in the IFS box and use a longer hose in place of the hose between 44420A and 44416.



Any hip tips for caping off the hose from the banjo?
 

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I also see that what Bent Up has done is recreate the 86-95 high pressure line with universal parts. Slick.

Bent Up bolt on, $60 bucks, New 86-95 $279 bucks retail.

Also the low pressure nipple in the steering rack is the EXACT same part used on the low pressure side of the IFS box. The exact same part number.
 

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It seems to me that the only banjo fitting is that top HP side one right!?

I would say the main reason that it used is to make a good location for the idle up sensor.

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Damn, wish I saw this post before I bought the Bentup Kit.

I have the entire power steering setup from an 88 in my back yard.

Oh well, it'll make a nice spare.
 

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It seems to me that the only banjo fitting is that top HP side one right!?

I would say the main reason that it used is to make a good location for the idle up sensor.

Richard
Yes that is the only Banjo fitting. I'm gonna hit a bone yard and see if I can score just the top metal part. Then you can TIG something on or maybe I can get the Cat place to attach the bent up hose.
 

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you dont need the idle up sensor on there. all it does is sense a pressure increase when your stopped and slightly increase engine rpm to increase the pump flow. the increase is not enough to be noticeable on the ifs setup. you can definetley keep it by hacking off the hardline, welding on an earl's AN fitting, and swapping out the end of the hose we sent for a fitting to match the AN. (the old way we used to do it).
 

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It senses when the steering hits the steering stops which makes the pump build up more pressure (about 1400 PSI) thus putting more load the engine. The older trucks just used hydralic pressure activated air valve that was connect to put a vaccum leak in the manifold which idled the engine faster. Later models use a pressure switch that goes to the ECU. The purpose is to prevent stalling the engine out. Either way, it would seem to me that putting a T in with AN hardware would be easy to do.
 

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lol....
id like to see you stall your engine via your ps pump.....

You probably can snag the Earls parts to T in the sensor but that earl's crap aint cheap.. i'll look into it a bit more..
 
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