[spill_02]

anyone know the best place to get deavers, and if they are the best custom springs i can get. The rear lift is beginning to sag so i have to get something new, also how are deavers if anyone has them and if so do you haul stuff and how do they hold up.

 

[atwinda]

Deavers are a nice option. If you plan on carrying much you'll need to order a pack with additional leaves in it (say 9, rather than the standard 7). (edit for misinformation): the standard 7 leaf pack is around $450, while custom packs are consideribly more: $800 bucks)

Unless you wanna spend $800 bucks, find a shop that will put another leaf in your current pack, and have them rearched for however much lift you want. Shouldn't be more than $200 bucks.

Also, your questions has been asked A LOT lately, so if you would kindly use the search feature before you ask, that would be great.

 

[synovus]

FYI, the standard 7 pack is around $800 bucks, so you'd be lookin' higher for a 9 pack.

??? The standard 7-leaf pack generally retails for about $450.

http://www.wheelersoffroad.com/tacomaleafsprings.htm

 

[synovus]

anyone know the best place to get deavers, and if they are the best custom springs i can get. The rear lift is beginning to sag so i have to get something new, also how are deavers if anyone has them and if so do you haul stuff and how do they hold up.

Give Jason a call at DeMello Offroad. He can answer your questions regarding load capacity and such, and get you set up with a set of Deavers that will work well for your needs.

 

[TORR]

Yea, Deavers with u-bolts and bushings RETAIL for 540.00. So most places will sell them a little cheaper than that. The nice thing about the deavers is that 1) better ride than stock, 2) much more travel available than stock (if that is the goal) 3) Lifetime no-sag garantee 4) you can get custom ones. The only question I have is are the springs that are sagging the stock springs? Or aftermarket springs? If they are stock, did you remove the overload leaf? Just wondering. Thanks, AJ

 

[synovus]

Yea, Deavers with u-bolts and bushings RETAIL for 540.00. So most places will sell them a little cheaper than that. The nice thing about the deavers is that 1) better ride than stock, 2) much more travel available than stock (if that is the goal) 3) Lifetime no-sag garantee 4) you can get custom ones. The only question I have is are the springs that are sagging the stock springs? Or aftermarket springs? If they are stock, did you remove the overload leaf? Just wondering. Thanks, AJ

As I've understood it, Deaver doesn't actually offer a "liftetime no-sag guarantee". They have among the best customer service available, and will generally do whatever they can to make their customers happy, but they don't have a written guarantee or warranty against sagging. Basically, the way I understand it is that if the springs lose their arch, Deaver will generally replace/refurbish them, but that they're under no obligation to do so. Am I wrong?

 

[DCabTaco]

As I've understood it, Deaver doesn't actually offer a "liftetime no-sag guarantee". They have among the best customer service available, and will generally do whatever they can to make their customers happy, but they don't have a written guarantee or warranty against sagging. Basically, the way I understand it is that if the springs lose their arch, Deaver will generally replace/refurbish them, but that they're under no obligation to do so. Am I wrong?

That is how I understand it as well. I actualy heard they charge somewhere in teh order of $100 or so to "rebuild" them.

 

[DesertTRD]

As I've understood it, Deaver doesn't actually offer a "liftetime no-sag guarantee". They have among the best customer service available, and will generally do whatever they can to make their customers happy, but they don't have a written guarantee or warranty against sagging. Basically, the way I understand it is that if the springs lose their arch, Deaver will generally replace/refurbish them, but that they're under no obligation to do so. Am I wrong?

Dont you just love how 99% of the posts have to be to correct stupid people who give bad information...

 

[synovus]

Dont you just love how 99% of the posts have to be to correct stupid people who give bad information...

That 1%, though... it's like a Ritz cracker. lol

 

[atwinda]

??? The standard 7-leaf pack generally retails for about $450.

http://www.wheelersoffroad.com/tacomaleafsprings.htm

Arg.. someone told me they were $800.. that might have been a custom pack though :\

 

[spill_02]

Yea, Deavers with u-bolts and bushings RETAIL for 540.00. So most places will sell them a little cheaper than that. The nice thing about the deavers is that 1) better ride than stock, 2) much more travel available than stock (if that is the goal) 3) Lifetime no-sag garantee 4) you can get custom ones. The only question I have is are the springs that are sagging the stock springs? Or aftermarket springs? If they are stock, did you remove the overload leaf? Just wondering. Thanks, AJ

yeah they are the stocks with the overload. hey and thanks everybody for the input i greatly appreciate it, and yeah i saw deavers on wheelers for like 500$ which is pretty good and they now have that 8 leaf setup , demello i just found has even more to offer. i believe that will give the lift im looking for(about 3-4 inches). What do you guys think about that and lastly what shocks should i compliment this rear setup with, i have some ranchos but i would like to upgrade. thanks again.

 

[TORR]

Just so I understand, am I the one you guys are calling stupid? Because I stated that Deaver has a lifetime no-sag garuantee? Ok, this is the nitty gritty details of it. Donahoe offers a no-sag on thier super duty springs. Deaver does not. However, the guys at Deaver are not just some guys who make springs all the time. They also have trucks and rail them. When Deaver makes someone a custom spring, it typically takes 5ish weeks and about $1200. This time is not idly wasted. They R&D the crap out of everything they sell. They WILL NOT let an inferior product out the door. You can call Deaver with your serial numbers of your specific leafs (personal ones, not just Tacoma or whatever) and they can tell you when they were made, the heat treating temperatures, quenching temperatures, metallurgy of the steel, so on. Show me another spring manufacturer that keeps this anal control over their manufacturing process. Unfortunatley, aftermarket springs walk a fine line. One guy wants 15" of wheel travel, while the other wants to lift his truck 2" and tow 6000 pounds. The same spring cannot realisticaly be made to do this. SO, call deaver and tell them what you are going to do with your truck/spring, and they can set it up so it will work for your application. The only reason a Deaver spring would sag is if it was abused. Try renting a rental car and racing the Baja 1000 with it, then telling the rental company that they should have rented you a trophy truck when it breaks. They would charge you an arm and a leg. When you abuse a deaver spring and it sags, deaver will not tell you go to up a tree. They will work with you to correct the problem in the most cost effective and time effective way. That is where my stance on the no sag garantee comes from. Sorry for the rant, just trying to "educate" people. From now on, I will stop using the no sag term if it makes everyone happy. Thanks, AJ

 

[synovus]

AJ, No, I wasn't calling you stupid. I just replied to DesertTRD, which had more to do with a number of other threads than this one. Sorry for the confusion.

As far as the "no-sag guarantee" thing, I know Deaver produces one of the finest products on the market, and that they will bend over backwards to meet customers' requests, needs, expectations, etc. I wish every company did as much for their customers. I was just wanting to verify and/or clarify your statement which implied that Deaver has a written/expressed warranty regarding sagging. Many people on this board have claimed in the past that Deaver does have such a warranty, when in fact Deaver doesn't. They do stand behind their products, but that's different from what the average consumer understands when someone says there's a warranty or guarantee. Just trying to make sure, for the benefit of all members, that the information being provided is accurate.

 

[DCabTaco]

Once again Corey's finesse at work,... lol. I don't know him personally, but I know he means well. Don't take any offense to this AJ he has a certain way with words. As stated before it was directed more towards other posts. I have seen that claim before as well and did some research to clear things up. As you can see I have a set of deavers sitting in the garage waiting to be put on. They appear to be built of great quality

 

[TORR]

Dont worry, no offence taken, I was just trying to figure out the stupid party here (I can take it, I am wrong alot.) I did talk to Mr. Crosby at deaver before I posted that last post, so that is why it is so long, I was really pumped up after talking to him. And if it sounds like I am really pushing them, thats because I have sold like 14 billion sets of springs and have another 14 billion in the warehouse and have NEVER have one customer complaint about them!

 

[BlingTaco]

I would disagree with "the great customer service" in regards to Deaver, in fact, I could be wrong, but as I understand it, Deaver doesn't manufacture springs, they farm it out............hmmmmm, and Andy is right on the price, and it is indeed for custom packs, I was quoted 800 as well.........it is custom pack if you want anything more than 3 inches.......