[TRD4WD]

What good does a LSD provide off road? I know the benifits of the TRD locker,but have no exsperience with a Limited Slip Diff.
I searched on here,but could not realy find any advantages to haveing a LSD apposed to having a locker or vise versa.
The reason I ask this is because I want a new tacoma with the color keyed bumpers,grilles,mirrors,and door handels,but this is only available on the sport package that offers no locker,only a LSD.
Will the LSD help me off road,or pretty much be the same as a open diff.?
If I have to deal with the chrome bumpers just to get the locker I will,but if the LSD is decent off road,I might go with the sport package.

Thanks,

 

[Bryanccfshr]

A locker is much more usefull offorad. That does not mean that a LSD is useless but, well once you get a wheel in the air or hanging in a rut it is..


On flat sand and mud situuations a LSD may be adequate. LSD's are also more sensitive to larger tires causing failure... IOf course lareer tires will make everything fail sooner but it is more apparent with LSD's.

Not bashing LSD's but for most Off the road situations the full locker is better. Then again if your looking at a brand new Tacoma are you really intending to wheel it?

 

[TRD4WD]

Then again if your looking at a brand new Tacoma are you really intending to wheel it?

The truck I have now,02' 4x4 v6,is just shy of hitting 19k miles, about the only time I drive it is to go wheeling. Its my play toy,So yes the new truck will get wheeled. I just need a 4 door now to make the long family trips to Colorado to go wheeling with my family(they all drive jeeps ) I took the ex-cab up there last year,and that was a cramped trip and we did'nt even bring my daughter!

 

[jon_7248]

A locker works a bit more differently than a LSD. The concept of the LSD is that when one tire is given power, the other tire also gets some power, but not the same amount. Yes both tires will be moving, but most of your power would be givin to the the wheel in the mud, or in the air (one with least traction) and therefore making waste of the power you are putting out.

The locker works like an LSD, but instead of giving just some power to the other tire, it gives equal amounts of power. So when one tire is spinning at 10mph, the other tire is spinning at 10mph while hanging in mid-air.

And LSD is great for daily driving because it corners better than a true locker, it allows for the two tires to move at different speeds. If you want to have the occasional safari, a LSD isnt bad. If you want to really play around at time (like me) the locker is better.

 

[Bryanccfshr]

The truck I have now,02' 4x4 v6,is just shy of hitting 19k miles, about the only time I drive it is to go wheeling. Its my play toy,So yes the new truck will get wheeled. I just need a 4 door now to make the long family trips to Colorado to go wheeling with my family(they all drive jeeps ) I took the ex-cab up there last year,and that was a cramped trip and we did'nt even bring my daughter!

Same situation as I 02 used only by me for recreational purposes.

In that case get a locker. The selectable locker gives you the best of both worlds and can do things offroad that the LSD just can't do. An LSD requires each wheel to have torque to work. If one wheel issuspended otr in slippery slop then it will spin and not giive enough torque feedback for the lsd to operate.

With a locker the axles are turning and that's that.

 

[TRD4WD]

An LSD requires each wheel to have torque to work. If one wheel issuspended otr in slippery slop then it will spin and not giive enough torque feedback for the lsd to operate.

Thanks,I was not really sure how the LSD worked. So basicly, A LSD is best for say road racing or something where the wheels stay planted to the ground.

 

[Bryanccfshr]

Yes, When both wheels have some sort of traction the LSD is a great tool for increasing traction. When one wheel may leave the ground a locker is a great tool for traction where a LSD simply becomes open.

 

[jon_7248]

One can always go the cheap route and get the "Lincoln Locker" :welder:

 

[TRD4WD]

One can always go the cheap route and get the "Lincoln Locker" :welder:

I have been known to be cheap(says my wife) But not that cheap.

 

[jbstrd]

I have a 98 TRD limited, and was told that the limited comes with a limited slip when not locked. Does anyone know if this is true? When I am off-road, if I do have a limited slip when not locked, it seems to be worthless to me. I highly suggest the locker over LSD. IMO you will regret hjaving the LSD over the locker.

 

[Valkyrie]

I have a 98 TRD limited, and was told that the limited comes with a limited slip when not locked. Does anyone know if this is true?

It is not true.

When I am off-road, if I do have a limited slip when not locked, it seems to be worthless to me.

That is because when your E-locker is not engaged, you are open. Therefore you have no experience driving with an LSD (but now know firsthand the huge advantage of a locker!)

I highly suggest the locker over LSD. IMO you will regret hjaving the LSD over the locker.

There are many guys running the LSD who have no regrets whatsoever. It is less expensive than a lockrite, has much better street manners, doesn't chew up tires, and in all but the most extreme situations (stuck with a wheel hanging and no momentum) it does just fine on the trail.

It is what it is, a streetable, low cost alternative to gaining traction... a compromise if you will. Not everyone can afford a selectable locker.

 

[jbstrd]

It is not true.

That is because when your E-locker is not engaged, you are open. Therefore you have no experience driving with an LSD (but now know firsthand the huge advantage of a locker!)

There are many guys running the LSD who have no regrets whatsoever. It is less expensive than a lockrite, has much better street manners, doesn't chew up tires, and in all but the most extreme situations (stuck with a wheel hanging and no momentum) it does just fine on the trail.

It is what it is, a streetable, low cost alternative to gaining traction... a compromise if you will. Not everyone can afford a selectable locker.

Thanks for setting me straight Chris. I figured that the dealer had no clue what they were talking about. I did not care anyway because I knew I had the locker to back me up. Man, i figured that if I did have the LSD when not locked they sure sucked ass. Thanks again, Jason.

 

[DCabTaco]

Thanks for setting me straight Chris. I figured that the dealer had no clue what they were talking about. I did not care anyway because I knew I had the locker to back me up. Man, i figured that if I did have the LSD when not locked they sure sucked ass. Thanks again, Jason.

Yeah, what do dealers know anyway, lol,... no offense Chris ; ) Besides you're a parts guy, its the sales and service department that has everything all screwed up.

To the best of my knowledge the only lsd/locker combo type of diff is the one that comes in the new unlimited jeeps. I’ve also heard they are having issues with them already.

 

[Valkyrie]

... its the sales and service department that has everything all screwed up.

LOL! I can't imagine ever saying such a thing.

 

[TacoCrazy]

LOL! I can't imagine ever saying such a thing.

I'm a dealership Parts manager and I say it all the time.

 

[Valkyrie]

I'm a dealership Parts manager and I say it all the time.

I could tell you were a parts guy Which store?

 

[TacoCrazy]

I could tell you were a parts guy Which store?

Land Rover and Jaguar Chattanooga..I'm a glutten for punishment.

 

[Valkyrie]

Land Rover and Jaguar Chattanooga..I'm a glutten for punishment.

uugghhhh...

 

[DCabTaco]

uugghhhh...

Well, at least he drives the right vehicle, so I will give him credit for that (as I turn away from him,.... uugghhh )

 

[TacoCrazy]

Well, at least he drives the right vehicle, so I will give him credit for that (as I turn away from him,.... uugghhh )

I've got my priorities right!