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So Im thinking about getting the Total Chaos Long travel for my 95 4x4. However I would like to keep my 4wd but I don't know what to do about the CV axles. I know you can buy the for like $750 but that seems like a lot for CV's. The other problem is that I converted my truck to manual hubs and want to stay that way.

So does somebody make CV axles for manual hubs? Or can I modify a set of Tundras myself? Or is their a company that makes extended CV axleshafts? And how well have the CVs lasted on other LT trucks?

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I see that they already broke a couple of axles, another reason to get cheap axles. It says they got theirs from ORS. I think I remember seeing axles on their website, but I don't anymore. Maybe Jesse will post here, Ive also seen him on Dezert rangers. Ill also call ORS sometime and see what theyve got.
 

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if you cant find a set of used ones, take your axles down to autozone and you can do a core exchange and trade them in for a set of new tundra axles for $200 (just dont tell them that yours arent tundra axles...they wont know the difference)...they have the same ones that kartek sells, then all you need to do is modify them yourself
 

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Yeah I already have 2 sets of axles and thought about doing that. I just need to know what to do. Do I just basically have to use my inner and outer joints on the Tundra shaft?
 

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Geoff said:
So Im thinking about getting the Total Chaos Long travel for my 95 4x4. However I would like to keep my 4wd but I don't know what to do about the CV axles. I know you can buy the for like $750 but that seems like a lot for CV's. The other problem is that I converted my truck to manual hubs and want to stay that way.

So does somebody make CV axles for manual hubs? Or can I modify a set of Tundras myself? Or is their a company that makes extended CV axleshafts? And how well have the CVs lasted on other LT trucks?

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the complete TC kit comes with the required, longer Tundra axles but check with Jessie for details, he's a great source of info when it comes to LT ;)

If you have some spare manual-hub axles you want to get rid of let me know ;)
 

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the complete TC kit comes with the required, longer Tundra axles but check with Jessie for details, he's a great source of info when it comes to LT ;)

If you have some spare manual-hub axles you want to get rid of let me know ;)
i thought the axles were extra...they are for camburg, you're sure TC includes them?
 

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i thought the axles were extra...they are for camburg, you're sure TC includes them?
you can buy different kits. The complete TC kit gives you everything you need including the axles. just bolt on and go. you do still need to buy the glass fenders, however.
 

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how much is their complete kit? my computer at work is a POS and won't load their site
 

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The kit without shocks is about $2500 I think when it came with Sway aways was $3450, and everything was $4200. However I dont see the option with sway aways on Total Chaos site anymore, just the kit.

Which also brings up the question, can you put 8" Kings on it? I thought they were too long? And how much can you get shocks for, about $900?

Hytenor, I just have extra ADD axles, sorry.
 

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The kit without shocks is about $2500 I think when it came with Sway aways was $3450, and everything was $4200. However I dont see the option with sway aways on Total Chaos site anymore, just the kit.

Which also brings up the question, can you put 8" Kings on it? I thought they were too long? And how much can you get shocks for, about $900?

Hytenor, I just have extra ADD axles, sorry.
o well on the axles. I have 2 spares but with the front ARB I wouldn't mind having 2 more ;)

you going to AZ rocks?
 

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The inner CV on the Tundra axles are completely different and won't interchange, but the outer CV have the same spline count as the Taco's.

You can press off the outer axle stub and swap them with the manual hub one's, but they are a PITA to pull apart.

It's a simple process to modify the inner CV to gain more flex, you'll need to replace the inner boot with a VW 930 version afterwards.

http://www.tundrasolutions.com/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/20063/sort/1/cat/500/page/3
 

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Hey Geoff..Want to sell one of the ADD axles??
 

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It's a simple process to modify the inner CV to gain more flex, you'll need to replace the inner boot with a VW 930 version afterwards.
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ok, explain this one and quit teasing, LOL
 

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Yeah Im going to need some type of writeup or somebody to do it for me...because Im gettting lost :D

I might be going to AZrocks, depends on if I have a motorcycle comp that weekend, which is pretty likely. I went out on friday last year, but everyone was already on a trail run.

Tacocrazy, I might use them as a core depending upon whether I figure this whole axle stuff out. They both have torn inners (from the King lift when I had ADD) Ill let you know though. I think theres a bunch around though.
 

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I see that Baja Concepts sells axles for manual hubs for a mere $1057.50. I think these are the ones ORS makes. I just can't believe they are that much for CVs.

So to do this myself I need to press out the outer axles and replace them with my manual hub ones. Change the inner boot to a high flex one. And the off road article says you need to cut the sheet metal lip off the inners? And doesn't the inner CVs need to be changed too?
Article: http://www.offroad.com/toyota/projects/tacoma/cv_axles/index.html
 

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I see that Baja Concepts sells axles for manual hubs for a mere $1057.50. I think these are the ones ORS makes. I just can't believe they are that much for CVs.

So to do this myself I need to press out the outer axles and replace them with my manual hub ones. Change the inner boot to a high flex one. And the off road article says you need to cut the sheet metal lip off the inners? And doesn't the inner CVs need to be changed too?
Article: http://www.offroad.com/toyota/projects/tacoma/cv_axles/index.html
Tundra axles in general are not cheap ;)
and yes, Jessie needs a little more detail in his section on modifying the Tundra inner to accept the 930 boot.

Are you looking to do a complete LT?
 

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There's a sheetmetal flange attached to the inner CV housing, this can either be completely cut off or trimmed back. The first option is the easiest, but the drawback to this method is the assembly will pull apart when tugged on. By leaving part of the flange attached, it keeps from pulling the shaft with the inner star and bearing out of the outer half if the CV. Personally I just cut the flange off and I have to be careful when removing the axles from the diff. The stock inner CV boot has a smaller diameter, when you cut the flange, your cutting away where the boot attaches, hence going with a new boot. The VW 930 CV boot has plenty of flex, I've installed them on Stock 4Runner axles as well.

Now that the rainy season is here, I'll have time to fabricate a press to pull apart the axles, without damaging the components.

Out of the 2 axles I've broken, the first busted the outer CV cage and snapping star and stripped out the splines on the axle. The second I sheared the axle off near the back CV, in both cases, I could have easily avoided the carnage, if I didn't listen to the spotters.

http://www.tundrasolutions.com/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/20064/sort/1/cat/500/page/3
 

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Tundra axles in general are not cheap ;)
and yes, Jessie needs a little more detail in his section on modifying the Tundra inner to accept the 930 boot.

Are you looking to do a complete LT?
Plan is to do the LT in front. Then 62"s with some sort of bedcage for a bike. That will be the next problem :rolleyes:

I think I know how to do the axles now. Still sounds like a PITA. I just don't know what Im going to do yet. I don't plan on doing any hard rockcrawling, so they shouldn't see a lot of stress.
 

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There's a sheetmetal flange attached to the inner CV housing, this can either be completely cut off or trimmed back. The first option is the easiest, but the drawback to this method is the assembly will pull apart when tugged on. By leaving part of the flange attached, it keeps from pulling the shaft with the inner star and bearing out of the outer half if the CV. Personally I just cut the flange off and I have to be careful when removing the axles from the diff. The stock inner CV boot has a smaller diameter, when you cut the flange, your cutting away where the boot attaches, hence going with a new boot. The VW 930 CV boot has plenty of flex, I've installed them on Stock 4Runner axles as well.

Now that the rainy season is here, I'll have time to fabricate a press to pull apart the axles, without damaging the components.

Out of the 2 axles I've broken, the first busted the outer CV cage and snapping star and stripped out the splines on the axle. The second I sheared the axle off near the back CV, in both cases, I could have easily avoided the carnage, if I didn't listen to the spotters.

http://www.tundrasolutions.com/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/20064/sort/1/cat/500/page/3
so these 930 boots can be used as a 'hi-angle' boot for the OE Taco axles? are there any mods to the axle that need to be done?

I could have easily avoided the carnage, if I didn't listen to the spotters.
LOL
 
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