damnit, ive been having a problem getting to my gmail account. I can get to every other freaking website but ive been having intermittent problems getting to the login page. Im using firefox with all the updates , also tried IE, ive cleared the cookie's and stuff, tried to get there by using https://mail.gmail.com instead of www.gmail.com or http://mail.gmail.com also tried to get there through the google account setting https://www.google.com/accounts/ManageAccount. anyone else having this problem. no viruses, no spyware on the pc.