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daveman1230

Discussion Starter · Jan 8, 2005

hi, im new to the world of off roading but after my cousin took me in his jeep i was hooked. I have a 2000 tacoma w/ 5 spd ,4wd ,2.7 L motor. i live in NC and i want to have easy to moderate off roading capabilities. I've been looking at different options for lifting my truck and new tires and wheels. First off, i know i'm getting 33'' tires but i haven't decided how thick yet. i know i will prob have to regear , and i was wondering about how much that would cost. i was looking at a Fabtech 3.5'' performance lift w/ front coilovers. i was thinking that if i got a 3'' body lift along with the suspension lift so i wouldn't have any tire rub problems. Any comments or advice would be gratly appreciated. thanks

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DCabTaco

· #21 · Jan 11, 2005

daveman1230 said:
if this is something to do with manual locking hubs then i do have them but i really don't know what your talking about with the cv boots or ADD

Did you state that you had manual locking hubs? If so you don't have ADD. The manual locking hubs are the ones you have to get off and lock each wheel to make the front wheels engage(4wd) and shift it to 4wd. The ADD either have a button inside the cab or a lever that will automatically engage the front hubs.

As for the lift, check this out first

http://www.customtacos.com/tech/index.php?page=index_v2&id=137&c=10

Do the pinch weld mod and these lift numbers/tire combos should apply to most Tacomas.

4BYnTacoma said:
Automatic Disconectiong Differential, all (pretty sure its all, somone correct me if I am wrong) late model 4wd Tacomas have it. Basically your front end is spinning all the time.

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-Get a drop bracket style lift wich basicaly leaves you with stock CV angles. Pro Comp makes a 4" kit, Fabtech and trail master make a 6" kit and Tuff country makes a 5"

Hope that helps

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I think you're right about "all late models" but I am not sure when "late models" begins. I think it was about 2001, but I may be wrong. So it could be possible that he has manual hubs.

Oh and not all drop brackets will give you stock CV angles. I know Fabtec doesn't drop the diff the full 6" thus making the CVs to have an angle, but at the same time it gives you better clearance.

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daveman1230

Discussion Starter · #22 · Jan 11, 2005

yea i said earlier i do have manual locking hubs but some other dude posted that it didn't matter if i had them or not, they are just manual locking in the front though not the back

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04RedLobster

· #23 · Jan 11, 2005

than you should not as much problem...he prob thought u had ADD

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DCabTaco

· #24 · Jan 11, 2005 (Edited)

daveman1230 said:
yea i said earlier i do have manual locking hubs but some other dude posted that it didn't matter if i had them or not, they are just manual locking in the front though not the back

With manual hubs your CVs only turn when 4wd is engaged. So there will be less wear than with ADD. You can go higher on the suspension lift with manual than with ADD because of this. So the 3.5" fabtech should be ok. I would still recommend you clean you CV boots before and after every off road. This will decrease the wear caused by dirt (sandpaper effect) on them. This is just as a side note though.

Oh and the rear wouldn't be manual since it needed to be engaged all the time to actually turn the back wheels. (as in a normal rear wheel drive vehicle)

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I think he misunderstood you and just posted a general post the effects on ADD. Here is his post where it would apply to you but you don't have to conver since you already have manual:

4BYnTacoma said:
-Lift 2.5-3" and get a manual hub conversion (about a grand for the parts)

(Although 3.5" and 3" shouldn't be too much of a difference for manual hub. IMO)

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4BYnTacoma

· #25 · Jan 11, 2005 (Edited)

daveman1230 said:
yea i said earlier i do have manual locking hubs but some other dude posted that it didn't matter if i had them or not, they are just manual locking in the front though not the back

My bad, I must have missed that in my speed reading. If you have manual hubs you can pretty much do what you want.

And the above post is correct. With the manual hubs you can go up to and above 3" of lift with coilovers, just know that your ride quality will suffer the higher you crank them.

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4BYnTacoma

· #26 · Jan 11, 2005

04RedLobster said:
how much is it to change ur CV boots...like parts and time wise....so i have enough money to fix it if it ever links/breaks etc...

It is 50 bucks an axel from CV unlimited. The kit I believe comes with outer and HI-ANGLE inner boots (upon request) as well as grease.
Their number is 1-800-868-0057

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04RedLobster

· #27 · Jan 11, 2005

is it bad to ride ur truck higher in the front? my friend and i didn't have time to do the rear and i've been riding like that for about 2 weeks...and i still didn't get the bushings so i dont' know when i will be able to put in the shackles and the new shocks lol

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4BYnTacoma

· #28 · Jan 12, 2005

04RedLobster said:
is it bad to ride ur truck higher in the front? my friend and i didn't have time to do the rear and i've been riding like that for about 2 weeks...and i still didn't get the bushings so i dont' know when i will be able to put in the shackles and the new shocks lol

Not at all

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04RedLobster

· #29 · Jan 12, 2005

good...my parents have been bitching me about this..i'm like it's not gonna affect anything...but i wanted to make sure..lol..but i need those bushings...

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DCabTaco

· #30 · Jan 12, 2005

04RedLobster said:
good...my parents have been bitching me about this..i'm like it's not gonna affect anything...but i wanted to make sure..lol..but i need those bushings...

One thing though after you change the height of the front the camber might be off and it will need alignment. Your wheels will look like this when you look at it from the front \ / I would weight about 1-2 weeks before I got it aligned so that the suspension will settle. So I would suggest you do the front end alignment as soon as you get a chance since it has been about 2 weeks. When you lift the truck from the back it will shift the weight around abit and might change your ride height up front changing your camber alignment a little, but I don’t think it will be enough to through it out of spec.

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04RedLobster

· #31 · Jan 12, 2005 (Edited)

it's all good i already got an alignment about "a week" after the spacers was installed...

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Oppositeboy

· #32 · Jan 12, 2005

rojodiablo said:
Automatic driveline/disconnect... or something like that. It will give you up to 2-1/2 to 3" of lift. The cv boots will wear prematurely, regardless of which type of hubs you have. It's all in the angle of the boots. Some last a long time, some fail immediatley. Most agree that cleaning the boots regularly helps their lifespan.

What?!? Please explain how ADD gives lift.

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rojodiablo

· #33 · Jan 12, 2005

Oppositeboy said:
What?!? Please explain how ADD gives lift.

DOOHH! My miswording. ADD front axles will popssibly start to vibrate with lift that exceeds 2-1/2 to 3" of lift, and you'll wear out cv boots faster.

Sorry about the confusion there. Coilovers, or spacers will give the actual lift.

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