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ok it seems like everyone is out of bils and it over a month wait just to possibly get some. is there any shock comperable to a bilstein that maybe isnt as pricey. ive searched the forum and all everyone says is bilstein HDs which is nice, but how about us peeps that cant get a hold of any. my lift kit is waiting on rear shocks and i cant wait any longer, so what shock would be close to a Bilstein and not a load of cash to get???? i have a 2" AAL in the rear any my truck is a 2002 prerunner v6.
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are they out of all bilstein shocks? i really don't think they are...the ones that are out is prob...5100s, i don't know about the HD...

i got 5150s...since i was waiting over a month for the 5100s like 3 months ago...
or you can get the OME shocks..
 

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ocdp2000 said:
ok it seems like everyone is out of bils and it over a month wait just to possibly get some. is there any shock comperable to a bilstein that maybe isnt as pricey. ive searched the forum and all everyone says is bilstein HDs which is nice, but how about us peeps that cant get a hold of any. my lift kit is waiting on rear shocks and i cant wait any longer, so what shock would be close to a Bilstein and not a load of cash to get???? i have a 2" AAL in the rear any my truck is a 2002 prerunner v6. any help would rule.thanks-darren
Bilstein 5150's.
 

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oh and if you can, include a price per shock and a site where i can order them so i can order them right away.
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I got the OME shocks from wheelers.com, I think they were the same price as the 5100s, and I like them. I got the firmer version, but the ride is still decent. I'd say the softer valved OME would be like a cadillac. (yeah right, but I bet it does ride nice).
 

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ocdp2000 said:
oh and if you can, include a price per shock and a site where i can order them so i can order them right away.
thanks again
I was looking into another setup and will part with my 5150's. They have about 3K on them and are in excellent condition. I have 3.5" lift and they are a tad long for my setup. For 2" lift you will bottom them out but if you go 3.5" they are ok unless you fully load the bed lift one wheel into the well. Check out my link for a pic. That is the running height at 3.5" lift in the pix.
 

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ocdp2000 said:
ok it seems like everyone is out of bils and it over a month wait just to possibly get some. is there any shock comperable to a bilstein that maybe isnt as pricey. ive searched the forum and all everyone says is bilstein HDs which is nice, but how about us peeps that cant get a hold of any. my lift kit is waiting on rear shocks and i cant wait any longer, so what shock would be close to a Bilstein and not a load of cash to get???? i have a 2" AAL in the rear any my truck is a 2002 prerunner v6.
any help would rule.
thanks
-darren
I just went through the same dilema waiting on the 5100's to come out. I ended up getting the OME N85's instead and am very, very happy with them. They have the same compressed length as the 5100's but a longer extended length.
 

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where did you get them at, website and how much were they for the pair?? also are those the soft or the stiff OME shocks?
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Would the 5150 be ok to use on a street queen with no lift?
How much lift? Stock-no way. 2"-ok. 3.5"-better. 4"-best
You just can't stuff the wheel with a load in the bed or it will bottom out. Running empty, I haven't compressed it all the way. You can see in pix the max amount that I could compress the shock by lifting that side and forcefully trying to make it bottom out. When I had a load of mulch and jacked a side up I could get it to fully compress.
 

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I was looking into another setup and will part with my 5150's. They have about 3K on them and are in excellent condition. I have 3.5" lift and they are a tad long for my setup. For 2" lift you will bottom them out but if you go 3.5" they are ok unless you fully load the bed lift one wheel into the well. Check out my link for a pic. That is the running height at 3.5" lift in the pix.
what are the pt#s on those?
 

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what are the pt#s on those?
Damnit, I knew someone would ask. I will look tomorrow. I have the receipt in the garage but it's in a pile some where. I think they are the 197HO 28"/16.5"lengths.
 

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here are the part#s and specs for the 5150s: $200ea.
Part Number Travel Description Valving Reservoir Ext Length Col Length Shaft
Dia Mounting
BF5-A194-H1 6.48 5150 Crossflow 255/70 Attached 18.78 12.30 14mm eye/eye
BF5-A195-H1 8.33 5150 Crossflow 255/70 Attached 22.50 14.17 14mm eye/eye
BF5-A196-H0 10.02 5150 Crossflow 170/60 Attached 25.91 15.89 14mm eye/eye
BF5-A196-H1 10.02 5150 Crossflow 255/70 Attached 25.91 15.89 14mm eye/eye
BF5-A197-H0 11.50 5150 Crossflow 170/60 Attached 27.99 16.50 14mm eye/eye
BF5-A187-H0 11.93 5150 Crossflow 170/60 Attached 29.70 17.78 14mm eye/eye
BF5-A187-H1 11.93 5150 Crossflow 255/70 Attached 29.70 17.78 14mm eye/eye
BF5-A198-H0 14.53 5150 Crossflow 170/60 Attached 34.90 20.37 14mm eye/eye
BF5-A198-H1 14.53 5150 Crossflow 255/70 Attached 34.90 20.37 14mm eye/eye

Stock is 6", I believe so the 8.33" model whould work for a 2" lift.
past that you'll need over 4.5" for the next size up or you can bottom them out and possibly snap off a shock mount...not good.

These shocks are great, I run them, but their sizes are very limited.
It is also suggested to run the lighter valving (170/60) and the choices are even more limited. I have the 196 and 197 HOs with 4.5" of rear lift. The driver's side shock is still a tad too long.

Another possibility is the 5125s: not sure on price
Part Number Travel Description Valving Reservoir Ext Length Col Length Shaft
Dia Mounting
BE5-6251-H5 6.63 5125 Off-Road 255/70 N/A 18.50 12.03 14mm eye/eye
BE5-6252-H5 8.13 5125 Off-Road 255/70 N/A 21.54 13.58 14mm eye/eye
BE5-6253-H5 8.60 5125 Off-Road 255/70 N/A 22.50 14.06 14mm eye/eye
BE5-A463-H5 9.24 5125 Off-Road 255/70 N/A 24.35 15.11 14mm eye/eye
BE5-A464-H5 10.17 5125 Off-Road 170/60 N/A 25.93 15.91 14mm eye/eye
BE5-6248-H5 10.17 5125 Off-Road 255/70 N/A 25.93 15.91 14mm eye/eye
BE5-A465-H5 11.00 5125 Off-Road 170/60 N/A 28.01 17.00 14mm eye/eye
BE5-A465-H7 11.00 5125 Off-Road 255/70 N/A 28.01 17.00 14mm eye/eye
BE5-6249-H5 11.94 5125 Off-Road 255/70 N/A 29.70 17.91 14mm eye/eye

but, again, they have a limited selection in the lighter valved units. However, for a 2 or 3" lift, you at least have more sizes.

Try posting the question to 5125 owners too.

OME N85s are $212/pr new.

you might also look into Rancho's 9000 series adjustables...stay away from the 5000s
 

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damn shocks get expensive. i think itll check out the OME N 85s if those are the softer ride. does anyone know a shop in california or a good website that has shipping deals that i could pick a pair up in??
 

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Damnit, I knew someone would ask. I will look tomorrow. I have the receipt in the garage but it's in a pile some where. I think they are the 197HO 28"/16.5"lengths.
if they are the 197s then they are WAY too long for 3" of lift. Even at 4.5" the 196 that I have is a tad too long. The 197 on the pass side is fine, however.
 

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if they are the 197s then they are WAY too long for 3" of lift. Even at 4.5" the 196 that I have is a tad too long. The 197 on the pass side is fine, however.
Yup. I run 3.5" and it will bottom out with a load. I run trails empty and am cautious as to not get crazy with them. They did do a piss poor job with the various sizes. It was either too short or too long. I wanted the full extension since a good bumpstop over stock can stop the bottoming out. We will have to see how the new Donahoe shocks do for the travel dilema. It sounds like they will cover the in between sizes. I am going the shock relocation route soon so all this should be a moot point for me hopefully.
 

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Yup. I run 3.5" and it will bottom out with a load. I run trails empty and am cautious as to not get crazy with them. They did do a piss poor job with the various sizes. It was either too short or too long. I wanted the full extension since a good bumpstop over stock can stop the bottoming out. We will have to see how the new Donahoe shocks do for the travel dilema. It sounds like they will cover the in between sizes. I am going the shock relocation route soon so all this should be a moot point for me hopefully.
I'm very happy with these but will be interested in how the new Hoes perform. I don't worry about bottom out when I'm not loaded with these NWOR hd springs but when I've got 2000' of wood back there I really have to watch it. As for extension, I modded these leafpks and managed to just barely top them out at full droop.
 

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where did you get them at, website and how much were they for the pair?? also are those the soft or the stiff OME shocks?
thanks
I got them at Wheeler's Offroad since I had already pre-ordered the 5100's. They sold the OME's to me for the same special price of $119 incl. shipping (since I ordered the Donahoe's at the same time). The N85's are the "firm" ones. I got those since I have a canopy and carry a 75 lb tool box and other misc. crap in the back.
 

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I got them at Wheeler's Offroad since I had already pre-ordered the 5100's. They sold the OME's to me for the same special price of $119 incl. shipping (since I ordered the Donahoe's at the same time). The N85's are the "firm" ones. I got those since I have a canopy and carry a 75 lb tool box and other misc. crap in the back.
ahh so since i barely ever carry anything in my bed then i should get the softer ride ones then right?? what number shocks are those like the N84s or something, if you do know can you let me know when you get a chance.
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ahh so since i barely ever carry anything in my bed then i should get the softer ride ones then right?? what number shocks are those like the N84s or something, if you do know can you let me know when you get a chance. thanks for any more help
I think the softer-valved OME rear shocks are the N94's. The N85's are firmer, I believe.
 
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