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with gas prices going through the roof, i have thought about making it possible for my truck to opperate on an alternate form of fuel. i know it is common in canada with big v8s, and real common in 4 cylinder forklift engines, but is it possible, and worth it at that in my truck?? with gas prices rising, natural gas will be a lot cheaper. anyone ever thought about/ done this??
 

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Gad said:
with gas prices going through the roof, i have thought about making it possible for my truck to opperate on an alternate form of fuel. i know it is common in canada with big v8s, and real common in 4 cylinder forklift engines, but is it possible, and worth it at that in my truck?? with gas prices rising, natural gas will be a lot cheaper. anyone ever thought about/ done this??
It is very possible. i thought about awhile back as well. But to convert it was a little pricey. just start doing searches (yahoo) and youll get plenty of info
 

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Id check with ur stealer ship they might know. But a 4cyl in a toyota forklift is some what the same as the 2.7. Just got to hook it up i guess.
 

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thanks for the link. i may have never found one. now i know it is possible. damn, that is expensive. i wonder if it is possible to buy the parts from napa individually, and do it yourself?? does anyone know what all is in these kits, and what it is that cost so much??
 

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They do that down here in AZ, as a plus you get to use the HOV lane on the freeway and tax breaks big time!
And our state government damn near went broke repaying everyone that jumped in and had the conversion done.
 

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i could see it working well for offroad usage, reliatbility, etc, but if u do a lot of highway driving, u gotta think about where it can be accessed, its not like a gas station were its right there at hand if u go empty, otherwise ull have to have a huge surplus
 

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Gad said:
with gas prices going through the roof, i have thought about making it possible for my truck to opperate on an alternate form of fuel. i know it is common in canada with big v8s, and real common in 4 cylinder forklift engines, but is it possible, and worth it at that in my truck?? with gas prices rising, natural gas will be a lot cheaper. anyone ever thought about/ done this??

Here`s a start
http://www.propanecarbs.com/examples.html

Go with an Impco system. I worked on forklifts for about 10yrs and that`s the best propane system out there. You`ll need a carb, regulator/converter, and some type of lockoff. Forklifts always used the VFF30 vacuum lockoff

Here`s the Impco website
http://www.impco.ws/products.htm
 

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So is it possible to have your motor set up to where you could run propane say if your wheelin and switch over to gasoline for you highway trip home?? Or if you ran out of propane??
 

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What kind of mileage do full propane fueled vehicles get? I know its $15 bucks to fill a 20lb tank here in GA.
 

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Gad said:
with gas prices going through the roof, i have thought about making it possible for my truck to opperate on an alternate form of fuel. i know it is common in canada with big v8s, and real common in 4 cylinder forklift engines, but is it possible, and worth it at that in my truck?? with gas prices rising, natural gas will be a lot cheaper. anyone ever thought about/ done this??
http://www.intergalactichydrogen.com/
see the link at bottom of this page as well

Tai Robinson's Tacoma can run Propane, E85 ethanol, Hydrogen, among others...his parts list was ~$6000 to convert the 3.4L to run alternative fuels...

Natural Gas is really high and so is Prophane and getting higher(at least locally in Colorado)...Hydrogen is about $2.20 per liter...but you get like 26MPG in conversion!

E 85 ethanol prices are looking better in the futures market...as of now Gasoline is still the best bargain...unless you live in Cali? then it is about a break even proposition

Edit: I still have the Automobile Mag. article with a general break down of parts and their approximate cost!
 

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Hey bluetaco,

Can E85 be used in the taco as is? After researching, the only mentioned requirement for flexible fuel vehicles using E85 was synthetic motor oil. I would assume that changes would need to be made to the spark plug requirement also due to the changed combustion chamber temperatures when using the higher octane E85. Of course I was unable to find any other specified requirements and thought your magazine article might elaborate. Thanks
 

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Oh HECK no, not stock.

Ethanol is HIGHLY corrosive. You need stainless steel tanks, fuel rails, alcohol-proof injectors, seals, teflon lined fuel lines. You also want to be able to advance timing and would want higher compression ratios to take advantage of the higher octane rating of ethanol.

Research the Ford FFV motors. Ford did some good work on that technology.
 
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