[thenexus]

This subject has probable been beaten to death :deadhors: and I should probable search before asking but I'm asking any ways. So the flame police go ahead and flame me :flamethro .

Any how I've been try to find a recovery strap at the local auto parts stores around me and the only one I was able to find was at checkers a 2 x 20 with something like 11,000 pounds (also says something about 20,000 lbs on it in smaller letters). Should I just hold out and buy one online, that's maybe a little stronger and longer?

I really don't want to spend alot at the moment because I don't know how often I'll use it, but it would be nice to have for those times that I do. (maybe I'll get a shackle as well).

Thanks for any help guys.

 

[SalsaStep01]

I got mine at walmart and it had been through hell and back and is still working good and in good shape, not as yellow anymore but it does its job.

 

[94runner]

dont get the ones with teh hooks on the end..... buy a Dshackle and hook it through the loops. why not just get one online. its only 10 or 15 dollars more. why risks using the cheap ones.

i bought mine from rockstomper. http://rockstomper.netfirms.com/shoppingcart/nfoscomm/catalog/index.php?cPath=1_4

 

[NorCalTaco]

yeah dont buy the ones with hooks thats forsure....I wasted my money on one of those....still havent gotten a new one. get it online.

 

[ShowStop]

One of the forums fine sponsors has some on sale right now:
http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61339

Personally, I dislike using anything less then the 3" x 30,000lb straps.

 

[not2XS]

2x20 is fine for typical use. Bear in mind that the mounted hooks you will usually be attaching to are typically rated for 10,000 lbs, and you would rather have the strap break than any piece of metal. Most of the time you only need a slight bit of help, and 20' is a pretty useful length. Once you determine that you do want to do things that put it to use, you will probably find that having a couple of different sizes on hand might be helpful.

And as others have said, stay away from any strap that has hooks on it.

 

[thenexus]

One of the forums fine sponsors has some on sale right now:
http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=61339

Personally, I dislike using anything less then the 3" x 30,000lb straps.

Thanks for the link I might just go ahead and give them call. The 3" is probable what I'll get just because it's in the middle (it's the same price as the one at checkers autoparts anyways). On the d-shackles shoud I just get the reciever shackle or the plain jane d-shackles (would it work with my trailer hitch)?

Ya, I know not to get the ones with hooks on them. Had a few experiences with those already.

 

[TEJASYOTA]

Don't forget Wheeler's strap.
I just placed an order for the tree strap ($23) and tow ($38) - -and some extra shackles.
WHEELER's stuff

Better safe than sorry. There are times to be cheap and then there are times not to be cheap.

I would wait and get something on-line.

 

[thenexus]

Don't forget Wheeler's strap.
I just placed an order for the tree strap ($23) and tow ($38) - -and some extra shackles.
WHEELER's stuff

Better safe than sorry. There are times to be cheap and then there are times not to be cheap.

I would wait and get something on-line.

I just order there 3 x 30 strap and the steel reciever shackle. I was about the same price as the one listed just a few replies up.

 

[lunarmist02]

I read ARB's recovery straps stretch some,I guess there are some benifits to it doing that, compared to there tow strap that dosnt give.

 

[mojavegold]

The strap has to stretch, or you will start bending stuff on he truck. It acts like a big shock absorber when you yank the truck out.

 

[marnes2986]

DOnt go to walmart, pepgirls etc...

No hooks! if you use them and the hook breaks off, its a deadly projectile haha

Like everyone has said.......just buy off wheelers....3x30 30k rating..

 

[gearbox]

Those are the breaking load limits. What are the operating loads of the straps above?

I've been using two 2" x 12ft lengths of industrial lifting slings that I got free from work. They are rated at an operating load of 6400lbs straight-line (vertical).

Does anyone object to using them? I think I'll be using them for very simple, light-duty stuff. So far I pulled a Jap station wagon out of a snow bank in SLT and that's all. I figure I can double them up in series to wrap around rocks or in parallel if I need more strength. Bad ideas?

ETA: Mine are both Lift-Alls rated at 6400 vertical, 5k choker and 12,800 basket. It looks like the Wheeler's' tree strap is rated at a whimpy 9800 basket, meaning 4900 straight.

 

[YOTABOGGER]

if you can find a firehose and use that...tie a bowlin knot at each end and use two trucks to pull the knots tight....ducktape the knot up and use some big d-shackles to hook up to each others rig when you get stuck. i've been using mine for a year now and no problem..it stretches real good and snatchs you right out..mines about 50ft. there hard to find..but if you can i'd suggest using one.

 

[WallyP226]

Load straps typically don't have a lot of "give" or stretch, its undesirable when lifting stuff because it can cause the load to shift or bounce. Thus usually made out of polyester or a similar fiber.

Low stretch is not a desirable characteristic for a tow strap because it transfers the momentum to quickly thus increasing the risk of breaking off the ancher point or tearing up something else that the anchor point is attached too, like the frame. This type of pulling is hard on both vehicles because there is an almost instant transfer of energy.

Load straps would make excellent tree straps however. Ie wrap it around a tree to prevent harming the tree and winching out.

I have seen people break 20K straps really getting on it, if that gives anybody a clue as to how much energy can be transferred to the frame, bumper, or tow hitch or hook that the strap is hooked on.

My two cent opinion is a 20-30K strap, 20-30 feet long. I carry two of them. Nylon straps are designed to stretch a fair amount thus easing the momentum or energy transfer. In other words your less apt to tear up your truck with a nylon tow strap.

Wally

 

[not2XS]

GB, there are a number of problems in trying to figure operating loads. I believe the guideline for cordage in general is one third their rating. I think lifting slings have different rules and ways of calculating.

One of the problems is that safe working loads decrease as the condition of the strap deteriorates, and recovery straps typically quickly get filled with abrasive dirt and dragged over hard rough surfaces etc etc etc. They are rarely pristine.

Another is that they often get used for "snatching". This is a gentle tugging motion, but it radically increases the load seen by the strap. It is quite a science project to figure out how much by, and no-one does it in real life nor do they typically have at hand the information needed. (Sometimes a magazine or blogger will come up with some hypothetical calculation). But it comes down to just a guess as to how many zeros to add on the end of your estimate. The point is that you really can't tell how much load you are actually putting on it.

So, although the numbers look like nice hard facts, they are in fact somewhat meaningless in real life. All you can really get out of it is that a 3" strap is probably stronger than a 2" one of the same material if it is stitched up accordingly.

 

[WallyP226]

Static verses dynamic loads.

Wally

 

[blackbear]

there is a guy on ebay that sells all kinds of straps at pretty good prices, i got a 3x35 w/ a 55k rating for 105 shipped.

 

[trifenix]

please get a quality shackle also.

one guy almost died at azusa when the shackle broke and flew through his windshield next to his head.

 

[thenexus]

Thanks wheeler offroad

UPS came today and bought me a gift.

$77 including shipping. The 3" strap might be much for the amount of use it will get but better safe than sorry.