I would be down for that! And why are we not protesting like the greenie hippies are everytime a tree gets cut down? why are we not sending more letters to Arnold and everyone else?Dick Foster said:It absolute best fix for this is to open up more trails in order to reduce the impact generated by forcing even more people into ever diminishing areas. Has any of our brilliant government types even brought up that remedy or would that make too much sense? The end goal to all of this type of nonsense it to create a slave state with us being the slaves. Yes, it is a small part but it still indicates the general direction things are headed just the same. i.e. You will recreate when and where we tell you to recreate and take your work product in the process because we the government have determined that it is a privilege, is at our discretion and is and not your right.
Yeh your right it is! I don't want to be heard saying this out loud but if it keeps the trail clean and open, I'm not against a park fee or something like that, that will keep it open?>Mike said:It's getting too popular. Rigs are getting more extreme, and there are more people getting into four-wheeling.
When I first ran the trail in the mid 90's, if you saw someone on 35" tires they were pretty hardcore!
Later,
....Mike
What about the people that ruin it for the rest of us?Mike said:No fees, ever. It's public land, and I pay taxes.
I also pick up trash. And I've picked up shit. Yes, other people's turds. I think I've earned my right to use my public land, any time I want, as long as I keep up my end of the bargain to use it in a responsible manner.
I don't want to pay fees so the government can hire more people to tell me where I can't go.
Like I said in another post, I am not opposed to permits, as long as they are free. They might be a good way to educate people, kinda like campfire permits. There should also be an unlimited number of permits issued.
None of this stuff is negotiable as far as I'm concerned.
Later,
....Mike
I think we need more education,more dealer driven off-road courses!Mike said:Well, for the people who just don't know any better, educate them. Last summer on the Deer Valley trail a young kid in a jeep started ripping up a river bank and meadow area that was clearly posted with 'stay on the trail' signs. He did this in front of a pretty big group, and was promptly ripped a new asshole by several people. He'll probably never do that again.
For the people who know they are tearing things up, and don't care, take pictures and report them to law enforcement. Or shoot them in the head and bury them on the side of the trail. Either way works for me.
Later,
....Mike
