[hartzpad]

I purchased some used Cornfed 3" spacers from Tacoma2 for $90 shipped in this thread: http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4701

He said he was trying to sell them for a buddy and gave me this address to send the money order to:

Lindsay XXXX
XXXX XXXXX XXXXX
Stow, OH 44224

I sent out a USPS money order for $90 on Feb. 15th, 2005, 1 month ago (I have the receipt).

He claims to have received the money order on Feb. 25th, 2005, 10 days later (not completely unbelieveable).

He really lagged on shipping them out and he finally claims to have shipped them on March 5th , 2005: "Hey bud, sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I had to take a last minute trip to Chicago for training. The spacers Are going out today. I will send you an email with the tracking number once they are on there way."

That is the last message I have received from him and I have sent hime 3-5 more PM's since that date with no response.

Tacoma2 has no email address that I can use to contact him, only PM's through TTORA.

It is ridiculous that it is 1 month later and still no spacers. If I do not hear from him by the end of this week, I will seek to file a complaint with the local postal inspector for mail fraud.

I hate to do this in a public forum, but when someone leaves a buyer hanging like this with no contact, it is to be expected. I recommend that no one ever buy anything from Tacoma2.

Any comments/suggestions would be appreciated. I have all PM's and dialogue recorded as evidence.

 

[KStacoma]

man you probably shouldn't be posting his address etc. even if he did scam you. That's the problem w/money orders is there is no guarantee whatsoever. I stick w/paypal ususally.
I guess if you wanted to you could take it up w/him in small claims court.

 

[hartzpad]

I wanted to Paypal him, but he didn't have a Paypal account.

 

[Alan11116]

Maybe, he will see this and it will remind him. Good luck.

 

[hornito]

I purchased some used Cornfed 3" spacers from Tacoma2 for $90 shipped in this thread: http://www.tacomaterritory.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4701

He said he was trying to sell them for a buddy and gave me this address to send the money order to:

Lindsay XXXX
XXXX XXXXX XXXXX
Stow, OH 44224

I sent out a USPS money order for $90 on Feb. 15th, 2005, 1 month ago (I have the receipt).

He claims to have received the money order on Feb. 25th, 2005, 10 days later (not completely unbelieveable).

He really lagged on shipping them out and he finally claims to have shipped them on March 5th , 2005: "Hey bud, sorry for not getting back to you sooner. I had to take a last minute trip to Chicago for training. The spacers Are going out today. I will send you an email with the tracking number once they are on there way."

That is the last message I have received from him and I have sent hime 3-5 more PM's since that date with no response.

Tacoma2 has no email address that I can use to contact him, only PM's through TTORA.

It is ridiculous that it is 1 month later and still no spacers. If I do not hear from him by the end of this week, I will seek to file a complaint with the local postal inspector for mail fraud.

I hate to do this in a public forum, but when someone leaves a buyer hanging like this with no contact, it is to be expected. I recommend that no one ever buy anything from Tacoma2.

Any comments/suggestions would be appreciated. I have all PM's and

dialogue recorded as evidence.

I bought the springs he was selling and haven't received anything either. Let me know if you get them.

Hornito

 

[CronusTRD]

His E-mail is [email protected]

Try to contact him directly.

If that work, let me know, and I can take it one step further.

 

[hartzpad]

Thank you very much. I hope it can all work out.

 

[reg98toytaco]

If i was u guys that got ripped off i would file a complaint. thats a bunch of bs.

 

[hecull]

Well, the good news is you mailed him a money order. If he doesn't cough them up, that's one count of mail fraud, which is a felony. Let him know you are going to contact his local law enforcement if he doesn't respond.
KO

 

[hartzpad]

You guys can bitch at eachother all you want. I have been patient, but when a seller does not contact you after 2 weeks of repeated messages, the seller should not be selling anything in the first place. I did not say that I was going to file a complaint with USPS yet, I will wait another week or two before getting that drastic.

Did any of you notice that TTORA member "hornito" responded saying that he sent money to Tacoma2 for some tacoma front springs and that he had not heard back from Tacoma2 either? That is unacceptable. I am justified in being upset considering the circumstances and I would like others on TTORA to be aware of what this buyer did so that it will: 1) either get him off his ass and send me my stuff ASAP, or 2) keep other members of TTORA from having the same thing happend to them.

The evidence is heavily weighted against Tacoma2 when 2 different members of TTORA are in the same predicament together under the same circumstances with the same seller. As far as I am concerned, I am more than justified in bringing this to the attention of the forum even if Tacama2 was just being lazy as it will keep anyone from every buying from him again.

Summary: I am justified in what I am doing and I will wait a week or two more before doing all I can to prevent this from happending again.

 

[CronusTRD]

Keep the BS out of this thread.

Hartzpad and Hornito

E-mail him directly with the e-mail I provided and see what happens. That is the address he registered with.

Unfortunately, His IP address is an AOL account so that is pretty much useless in tracking someone unless some strings are pulled.

If that doesn't work to resolve the issue to some degree, post up his address and it may be possible to have a fellow 4x4'er swing by his address and see what the deal is.

You should have some possible recourse through USPS, and if you paid for the money order with a credit card, you could dispute the money order charge as well.

 

[hartzpad]

CRONUSTRD, I appreciate the help and the info and I have already emailed him. You might want to send a message to Hornito to make sure that he has emailed him as well.

I hope that all will work out, I've done all that I can on my side of the table for now.

 

[CronusTRD]

His last visit to the board was on March 5th.

 

[hornito]

He gave them to Ralph from Texas and he was going to ship them.

What...the springs and spacers?

 

[hartzpad]

Well, he finally responded and he has not even shipped them out yet!!!! This was his reply:

> Sorry - I was away at trainign again. I need your address again. If I get it
> today they will go out tomorrow.


That is not acceptable after he told me he was going to ship them out weeks ago. When you have someone's money, you can't just lag like that and not keep in contact with them. For all they know the seller has stolen their money. Please, no one ever buy anything from Tacoma2 ever again.

 

[CronusTRD]

It could haven ended up worse..at least he responded.

Late spacers are better than no spacers.

 

[CuriousJ0N]

Well, he finally responded and he has not even shipped them out yet!!!! This was his reply:

> Sorry - I was away at trainign again. I need your address again. If I get it
> today they will go out tomorrow.


That is not acceptable after he told me he was going to ship them out weeks ago. When you have someone's money, you can't just lag like that and not keep in contact with them. For all they know the seller has stolen their money. Please, no one ever buy anything from Tacoma2 ever again.

let us know if you actually receive them

 

[hartzpad]

Another Update. He was supposed to ship them out on Saturday March 19th and send me the tracking number but I have not heard from him. I'm hoping that he has sent them out. I have not heard from him since Friday. I will keep this post up to date.

 

[CMB1998]

Another Update. He was supposed to ship them out on Saturday March 19th and send me the tracking number but I have not heard from him. I'm hoping that he has sent them out. I have not heard from him since Friday. I will keep this post up to date.

Any update?

Chris

 

[hartzpad]

Still have not heard from him since Friday March 18th when he said that he would ship them out the 19th. A very nice member of the forums has offered to go by and get them from Tacoma2 and ship them to me (I would insist on paying shipping of course) because he is local to Stow, OH. I'm waiting until next week before doing anything, but I'm quickly losing my patience.