What!!! No filter???
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With full awareness that Gadget will jump my ass if I don't express this properly 
, We don't have a replaceable filter. It is serviceable but is simply a mesh screen that captures solids. The shop did not want to mess with dropping the pan to get to it. Hopefully you didn't pay much because they didn't do much.
, We don't have a replaceable filter. It is serviceable but is simply a mesh screen that captures solids. The shop did not want to mess with dropping the pan to get to it. Hopefully you didn't pay much because they didn't do much.
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Did you get a full flush on the tranny? Did you get charged for a pan gasket and drain plug gasket? If you did then look at the pan and you should be able to see that it has a new gasket.If it doesn't then they never even droped the pan to check it out and I would be P O about that, The factory filter should have at least been cleaned. Some are replacable and some don't need to be replaced but they should be cleaned and checked . For that price they should have added gold plated tranny fluid and platinum antifreeze Mike
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What did they do for the auto service? A drain and fill or a flush? It sounds like they just did a drain and refill unless you know that they flushed it. Neverthe less for a full auto service it should require dropping the pan for inspection. Notice I said "SHould" Not many shops take the initiative without some prodding.coldtaco said:Paid $200 for the auto service and coolant flush
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I've R&R transmissions off and on now for nearly 6 years I guese and have yet to see a transmission without a filter of some sort. I've only ever seen one that I can recall that didn't require dropping the pan to replace it, and it was on a front wheel drive.
The majoraty of the filters are throw away. If you wanna find out if they did drop the pan they should have cleaned it while it was down. If you take it back and they say they did drop it I think I would ask them to drop it again if the gasket doesn't look new ( note here some gaskets are reusable if it's a cork gasket it is not) . If it wasn't removed and you " do not have any minor problems or major problems" witht he tranny the pan should still be fairly clean. If it is cleaned then you may be responsible for a gasket, fluid, and labor.
By fairly clean I mean you may find some clutch dust even if it was done properly and posibly some metal or brass shavings this is normal. You can't hardly flush all of this stuff out it sticks in the cooler and converter and so on and will show up in the pan often time on a fresh rebuilt unit too from the cooler or lines. If the pan has a magnet in it like most any self respecting mechanic would clean it. You will deffinatly know if it wasn't cleaned as it will have like a 1/16" or more of goo on it.
For the record I have never had the pleasure of pulling a tacoma or even an older toyota automatic. So I can't say for sure the gasket type or filter type, but I'm sure someone will chime in with this info. The above info is an observation from the some odd hundred I've pulled.
There is also a website called http://www.atra-gears.com that lists shops. They stay pretty on top of there list I think as they also supply technical info to rebuilders. Ypu might want to look up the shop you went too.
The majoraty of the filters are throw away. If you wanna find out if they did drop the pan they should have cleaned it while it was down. If you take it back and they say they did drop it I think I would ask them to drop it again if the gasket doesn't look new ( note here some gaskets are reusable if it's a cork gasket it is not) . If it wasn't removed and you " do not have any minor problems or major problems" witht he tranny the pan should still be fairly clean. If it is cleaned then you may be responsible for a gasket, fluid, and labor.
By fairly clean I mean you may find some clutch dust even if it was done properly and posibly some metal or brass shavings this is normal. You can't hardly flush all of this stuff out it sticks in the cooler and converter and so on and will show up in the pan often time on a fresh rebuilt unit too from the cooler or lines. If the pan has a magnet in it like most any self respecting mechanic would clean it. You will deffinatly know if it wasn't cleaned as it will have like a 1/16" or more of goo on it.
For the record I have never had the pleasure of pulling a tacoma or even an older toyota automatic. So I can't say for sure the gasket type or filter type, but I'm sure someone will chime in with this info. The above info is an observation from the some odd hundred I've pulled.
There is also a website called http://www.atra-gears.com that lists shops. They stay pretty on top of there list I think as they also supply technical info to rebuilders. Ypu might want to look up the shop you went too.
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Check to see if they diconnected the cooler lines to the tranny. I am a suspicious sort when it comes to subjective terms such as "tranny Service" .
Is it warming up in Central Ak yet? I have been on the slope for nearly 6 weeks and I am sick..real sick of the cold weather and the color white and blining sunshine. I Don't know how you handle a whole winter with no break from it.
Back on topic. It sucks cause I know you took it to a shop because you don't like crawling around under the truck this time of year. The only way to confirm if they did anything but pull the plug and refilled it would be to drop the pan soon. A drain and refill is usually adequate service but for the price you paid..for a drain and refill and a coolant flush, I would hope they kissed you.
Is it warming up in Central Ak yet? I have been on the slope for nearly 6 weeks and I am sick..real sick of the cold weather and the color white and blining sunshine. I Don't know how you handle a whole winter with no break from it.
Back on topic. It sucks cause I know you took it to a shop because you don't like crawling around under the truck this time of year. The only way to confirm if they did anything but pull the plug and refilled it would be to drop the pan soon. A drain and refill is usually adequate service but for the price you paid..for a drain and refill and a coolant flush, I would hope they kissed you.
all yota autos are just serviced by drain/fill using the plug in the pan which is the recommended service by toyota which will usually replace a touch over 4 quarts of ATF. The auto flush will typically run $100 for a 12 to 16 quart flush (depending on the machine) or a full synthetic flush for around $150. The flushes are great if the fluid was abused and is very dark. BUT, if you service the trans on a regular basis (like every 30k) there is absolutely NO NEED what so ever to flush the trans or pull the pan to change the filter. I have seen so many trucks with 150k to 200k miles on them that have been neglected there whole life and still work fine. Dropping pans and changine filters are for american made junk
BTW, toyota calls the mesh for the pickup a screen and not a filter, they do not call for replacing anytime
BTW, toyota calls the mesh for the pickup a screen and not a filter, they do not call for replacing anytime
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March was a pretty nice month. Got into the 30's most days, anywhere from the teens to twenties at night. Just the way break-up should be. But snow and cooler daytime temps since end of March till today:-( Tomorrow suppose to get into the low 40's. We will have to wait and see. Don't want to get too warm all of a sudden like or else you get alot of flooding especially since we got a bit more snow this year than in the past. It sure is nice though to have 14hrs of daylight again. It makes one forget that not too long ago the temps where below 0. 6 weeks on the slope would be a bit long in my book too. Going home soon? I did not know that there are a couple of magnets in the pan. Would be nice if they had droped the pan to at least look at the magnets and make sure that there was no excessive metal in the pan. I can just imagine them saying that they would not honor the waranty if lets say in another 1000mi I had transmission problems and they took the pan off and found all sorts of metal and then said that I did not have the proper service done at the right time and point out that the pan was not droped when I had the transmission serviced. Well, I will go back tomorrow and talk to the service manager about this.
March was a pretty nice month. Got into the 30's most days, anywhere from the teens to twenties at night. Just the way break-up should be. But snow and cooler daytime temps since end of March till today:-( Tomorrow suppose to get into the low 40's. We will have to wait and see. Don't want to get too warm all of a sudden like or else you get alot of flooding especially since we got a bit more snow this year than in the past. It sure is nice though to have 14hrs of daylight again. It makes one forget that not too long ago the temps where below 0. 6 weeks on the slope would be a bit long in my book too. Going home soon? I did not know that there are a couple of magnets in the pan. Would be nice if they had droped the pan to at least look at the magnets and make sure that there was no excessive metal in the pan. I can just imagine them saying that they would not honor the waranty if lets say in another 1000mi I had transmission problems and they took the pan off and found all sorts of metal and then said that I did not have the proper service done at the right time and point out that the pan was not droped when I had the transmission serviced. Well, I will go back tomorrow and talk to the service manager about this.
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I follow the drain and refill frequently myself and have full faith that I won't have to drop the pan for a long time. For a 7 dollar a gallon penzoil ATF and about 20 minutes once every year have plenty of faith in my maintenance reutine.
I believe that Coldtaco expected to get more for his money. Sounds like coolant flushes are really expensive in Alaska.
I follow the drain and refill frequently myself and have full faith that I won't have to drop the pan for a long time. For a 7 dollar a gallon penzoil ATF and about 20 minutes once every year have plenty of faith in my maintenance reutine.
I believe that Coldtaco expected to get more for his money. Sounds like coolant flushes are really expensive in Alaska.
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Sounds nice. Still hanging 10 to 20 below zero here. I go home Wednesday and I am fried :explode:coldtaco said:
A drain and refill meets the warranty requirements. The service manager should give you a rundown of the service they performed. If you want to get into pulling the screen off yourself sometime just go halfway through this procedure. http://65.200.1.6/FSM/Repair_Manual/03tacoma/ata340ea/vba/ovr.pdf
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