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I'm not buying another toyota until they come out with either a diesel or a hybrid 4x4. Has anyone heard anything about U.S. release of diesels?

Of course they'll never make my dream truck; cab-over body style mid-engine hybrid with an electric motor on each wheel. Max torque at any speed, equally balanced on all 4 wheels, extreme entry and exit angles, and you can actually see where your front wheel is going without hanging your head out the side. One can only hope; or start fabricating their own! :welder:
 

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Wow...sounds like you got alot of dreams there. Too bad you wont see much of what you are dreaming of. Better wait for the hybrid vehicle, because Toyota wont be releasing a diesel engine for any US truck in the near future.
 

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hybrids SUCK, you think gas motors have enough problems now, ad an electric in the mix and your screwed after acouple years. "more crap to break"

SIMPLE, GAS, RELIABLE.
 

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hybrids SUCK, you think gas motors have enough problems now, ad an electric in the mix and your screwed after acouple years. "more crap to break"

SIMPLE, GAS, RELIABLE.
Its our reliance on gasoline that will continue to hurt us for generations to come. The more we support hybrid vehicles, the better they will become and the more that will be available. This will help us steer away from our reliance for gas
 

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Its our reliance on gasoline that will continue to hurt us for generations to come. The more we support hybrid vehicles, the better they will become and the more that will be available. This will help us steer away from our reliance for gas
A Diesel is a much better choice than that Voodoo Hybrid junk. More problems, more expensive, more pollution from batteries charging and discharging, ect.
 

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i like my relience on gas!!!! there is so much more gas in the earth, most of it is on our soul too, the u.s. only is relient on 9% of foreign oil!!! our atmisphere is adapting to the polution we through at it aswell. but a deisal tacoma wouldn't be a bad idea.
 

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i would buy one if they didnt make it sound like a "yetti" like most diesels
 

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my uncles a mechanic and was telling me that the hybrids are only good in cities, but on highway there is really no significant improvement of gas mlg, thats the only place i can see there role, i dont really know too much about them, i dont trust electricity and mud when mixed
 

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Dealerships here in Mississippi say Toyota is going to be putting a Diesel in the Tundra in 2007, also there are plans to make a 250 and a 350 series type truck like the Fords.
Just some info from a dealership....
 

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bmw678 said:
i like my relience on gas!!!! there is so much more gas in the earth, most of it is on our soul too, the u.s. only is relient on 9% of foreign oil!!! our atmisphere is adapting to the polution we through at it aswell. but a deisal tacoma wouldn't be a bad idea.
you can't spell and have absolutely no idea what you are talking about
 

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Its our reliance on gasoline that will continue to hurt us for generations to come. The more we support hybrid vehicles, the better they will become and the more that will be available. This will help us steer away from our reliance for gas
I agree that hybrids are good for us in the long run - but its true; its just more stuff to break. The more complex a closed system is the greater chance for something to go wrong!
 

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I travel the world and diesels are the motor of choice most everywhere but here. Given the choice, I wonder if we in the U.S. are prepared to lay out an additional $8-10K for a diesel truck and then not see any real savings with the price of fuel oil here these days?
 

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you can't spell and have absolutely no idea what you are talking about
I second that. To bmw678, I hope you were being sarcastic. The atmosphere is not alive and cannnot "adapt". It can, however, change dramatically and unexpectedly. Whether human-induced elevated CO2 levels can cause that change remains to be seen.
The U.S. may be the world's second largest crude oil producer, but we still import about half of our crude oil (not 9%), and have been for quite some time.
And the earth does not have an unlimited supply of economically recoverable oil. By conservative estimates, world peak oil production will be reached in 2008. Judging by how accurate the U.S. peak oil estimate was, I think I'll take the geologists' word for it. After that, don't expect to be paying a measly 2 bucks a gallon anymore.

As for a hybrid tacoma, I'd buy it after the initial bugs were worked out if I ever had the money. Of course, I don't do any rock crawling or anything like that, so there you go. Just imagine how much better trail rides would be without all the noise.
The oil age is coming to an end. Alternative energy is the (mandatory) wave of the future. I say run with it.
 

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I see taco deisels all the time inn Latin America, they are bitchen, torquey, gas conserving monsters. I really want to get my taco converted over on ce the engine goes south in another coupla hundred thou miles, but I doubt I could overcome the legalities of the swap.

Lets keep hoping.

and whoever said that hybrid/electricity and mud dont mix....boy thats a stretch!!!
Deisel is the future, hybrids have a dirty little secret in that the batteries are more toxic to the environment than any emissions.(period)
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I see taco deisels all the time inn Latin America, they are bitchen, torquey, gas conserving monsters. I really want to get my taco converted over on ce the engine goes south in another coupla hundred thou miles, but I doubt I could overcome the legalities of the swap.

Lets keep hoping.

and whoever said that hybrid/electricity and mud dont mix....boy thats a stretch!!!
Deisel is the future, hybrids have a dirty little secret in that the batteries are more toxic to the environment than any emissions.(period)
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The standard police vehicles in Argentina are all diesel hilux's. Makes you wonder why they're not offered as an option here.
 

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In Europe, the gas is really pricey, so diesel is a great alternative, which has led to some great technical advancement in that area, and relatively clean diesel fuel.
Here in the US, gas is so cheap and the diesel fuel is nasty and smelly. That is why hardly any vehicles can be bought with diesel engines.
 
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