ok last thursday i ran into a few ttora guys on their way to azrocks at cabella's in pheonix (seamed like good guys). i got talking about arb bumpers and basicly this is what i got out of the conversation from 1 guy. what i was told is that the winching issue was ...well an issue. is it true the arbs arn't stout enough to handle the tacoma load under mid stress situations? he was telling me they get tweaked forward about an inch and stay that way from being under forward stress. this is because arb doesn't make the mounting brackets strong enough so they can still maintain the factory "crumple zone"? is this BS or what? i know the crumple zone has been BEAT to DEATH ! i don't want to even go down that road. so is it the arb's for 04's and prior? or are the 05's and up having this issue? or is this not even an issue????