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Tried to do this today on my 99 with NO tilt and I could not get the shaft out of the sleeve to even get to a slip joint. Anyone have any information for the few NON tilt guys? I am not sure it can be done. There was a plastic bushing on the bottom that seems like you would have to destroy to get it apart.
 
Tried to do this today on my 99 with NO tilt and I could not get the shaft out of the sleeve to even get to a slip joint. Anyone have any information for the few NON tilt guys? I am not sure it can be done. There was a plastic bushing on the bottom that seems like you would have to destroy to get it apart.
Pictures please, help us see what you see.

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No pics, didnt have it out long enough. But it basically cannot be done with non tilt steering.
 
do u have to take it out or can u do it in the vehicle??
 
Talked to a welder about this. He said he'll do it but it's a thing where he said it could be unsafe due to it voiding the manufacturers original design. He recommended (and I saw in another write up) that I could drill a hole in both and put a pin in it. As the pin could sheer if ever in an accident and the tack weld not. Or he also mentioned maybe an after market steering shaft? (Never heard of one). And also that with the 2 tack welds, after alot of turning and all that, the welds can break or whatever. I want to weld it but could a pin do the same and be as or more safe? (Sorry it's confusing)
 
Did you show him the pictures?

For one I don't see how a pin is going to make a difference unless the hole it slides through is so tight it has to be pressed into it. if the hole is any larger than the pin then you will still have slop there and it can still pop or click.

Also it would seam that a pin going through both pieces of metal would NOT snap in a collision to where a small tack weld would just let go. I purposly did not clean or prep the metal before welding and made sure my tack welds didn't penetrate too much. I wanted them to be more like metal glue than an actual weld.

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Has anyone tried pulling the assembly out and liberally applying JB weld?

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I would much rather my weld fatigue from turning and break. Worst case I just pull it out and throw another tack on there.
 
Did you show him the pictures?

For one I don't see how a pin is going to make a difference unless the hole it slides through is so tight it has to be pressed into it. if the hole is any larger than the pin then you will still have slop there and it can still pop or click.

Also it would seam that a pin going through both pieces of metal would NOT snap in a collision to where a small tack weld would just let go. I purposly did not clean or prep the metal before welding and made sure my tack welds didn't penetrate too much. I wanted them to be more like metal glue than an actual weld.

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Has anyone tried pulling the assembly out and liberally applying JB weld?

ALSO:
I would much rather my weld fatigue from turning and break. Worst case I just pull it out and throw another tack on there.
yeah i showed them to him and the whole bit. I have to convince my parents and it's not working. as they say i'm not touching the steering geometry and all that. They keep telling me it drives fine and I don't know any other way to get through to them other than telling them it's scary to drive on the interstate and i'm trying to tell them this'll save my life one day. id rather have more control than less control. somehow i cant get through to them on this.
 
yeah i showed them to him and the whole bit. I have to convince my parents and it's not working. as they say i'm not touching the steering geometry and all that. They keep telling me it drives fine and I don't know any other way to get through to them other than telling them it's scary to drive on the interstate and i'm trying to tell them this'll save my life one day. id rather have more control than less control. somehow i cant get through to them on this.
Umm lets get something straight. This is not a fix for a dangerous problem. If that were true then there would be a factory recall or something on the books. This is just a fixes for a little annoying rattle/pop or SLIGHT slop in the steering. And is really something that should be performed only by those who have the means to do it themselves. It's not really even something worth paying someone to fix for you.

If your truck is dangerous to drive on the highway then that would appear to be something different entirely and you should have your truck looked at by a PROFESSIONAL!
 
Just did this and it eliminated all rattle in the steering. I did notice however that my steering seems much stiffer at slow speeds the further I crank the wheel. I for sure did not screw up on the tac welds but wondering If maybe I could have pushed the splined portion of the shaft to far in (I did have to push pretty hard to get it to seat back in again)?

Any input would be great
 
Just did this and it eliminated all rattle in the steering. I did notice however that my steering seems much stiffer at slow speeds the further I crank the wheel. I for sure did not screw up on the tac welds but wondering If maybe I could have pushed the splined portion of the shaft to far in (I did have to push pretty hard to get it to seat back in again)?

Any input would be great
Goddamnit ever since I did this I thought I was the only one who had this issue... In fact my steering got a hell of a lot tighter. I pulled everything apart, re-installed and it got slightly better but it's tight. Like I can be going around a gentle curve, release the wheel and it will hold track through the curve.

So, now once I get the opportunity I am going to pull everything apart, clean, grease and re-install and see if I can resolve it. Keep me posted if you have any luck, but you seem like the first person I've heard of dealing with this. I'll update if I have any luck.
 
Goddamnit ever since I did this I thought I was the only one who had this issue... In fact my steering got a hell of a lot tighter. I pulled everything apart, re-installed and it got slightly better but it's tight. Like I can be going around a gentle curve, release the wheel and it will hold track through the curve.

So, now once I get the opportunity I am going to pull everything apart, clean, grease and re-install and see if I can resolve it. Keep me posted if you have any luck, but you seem like the first person I've heard of dealing with this. I'll update if I have any luck.
awesome thanks ill post something if i resolve it!
 
awesome thanks ill post something if i resolve it!
Same here, the weather this weekend isn't gonna get let me get out and screw with it, but I may give it a go next week. I don't see how the splined portion coulda went too far into the sleeve though, since that lock bolt can only be threaded through in exactly one position. If the shaft was pushed too far in, you should not be able to install that lock bolt. I don't know what else could have changed.

I was wondering if somehow when I was trying to re-install the steering shaft if I somehow changed the geometry of the universal joint in the engine bay and it is binding somehow? Otherwise I can't think of anything else that could have changed. I'm somewhat tempted to grind off the tac weld and see if it'll go back to normal, I just don't see what it would change though.

Regardless, keep me posted if you make any progress and I'll keep ya up to date if I make any progress.
 
Glad I found this. I have been chasing the 1/2 inch of play in my steering wheel with a nice wobble on the freeway. Did this in 1 hour and it is night and day. It respondes like my 2013 fusion. The play is less then 1/10 of an inch now. And the wobble in the steering wheels is gone.
 
Just bumping this thread up because I finally got around to fixing my 2001 with tilt column. You don't need to pull the under dash panel out. Just take the 3 screws out of the column cover by turning the wheel to each side. Then unplug the two plugs going into the clockspring, the airbag one has a secondary clip you have to pop first. Unplug the wiper switch and the light switch. Then pop the two clips that hold the harness to the underside of the column. Use needle nose vice-grips to pull the two springs off. Remove the clamp bolt on the bottom of the column (12mm wrench). Take out the two 6mm allen bolts and pull the column out. Be careful to keep the switch cluster oriented to the steering wheel. If you let it rotate around the clockspring will break the first time you turn to full lock. I put a rubber band around the cruise control lever and the light switch stalk.

Welded it up with 3 tacks, tossed it back together. Much better! I still have some slop because of the worn rack guide but no more dead spot in the steering and wandering on the highway. It was starting to be a handful at 70+ mph, I had to be constantly correcting to stay in my lane.
 
Done! What an awesome fix...drives like a new truck again. I was replacing the front and rear transfer case seals and noticed my rack bushing were shot. While replacing those I found this thread and decided to do it at the same time. 70 mph+ was starting to be a pretty squirly ride. Since I already had all my tools out and the welder set up from another project, this took less than 45 minutes start to finish. Thanks for all the info.
 
Thanks!

After reading this thread top-to-bottom, plus most of the original 2005 "Clunking steering" thread (http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthrea...light=steering), this fix was simple and very effective. For what it is worth, I chose to use a roll pin (1/8") rather than tack welds, since I couldn't find a welder on Saturday. The steering on my 2001 taco now feels very solid, like new.

I am grateful to everyone who contributed to these threads, but particularly to "Gunny", for diagnosing the root cause of the problem, "sagexp", for inventing the roll pin fix, "terryj5", for describing a simpler way of removing the steering wheel, and "route1286" for summarizing everything with clarity and brevity.
 
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